Talk:Pioneer movement

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I've removed the sentence

Anticommunist-minded people often compare Pioneers to Hitler Youth.

due to the following reasons:

  • Not all, rather several, if any, Anti-Communist minded people compare pioneers with Hitler Youth, simply because many of them don't know either about Pioneer Movement or about Hitler Youth.
  • Hitler himself as well as many other Hitlerites were Anti-Communists too and it would be nonsense if they should often compare Pioneer Movement with Hitler Youth. Cmapm 16:48, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

It seems to make sense to stress their similarity to "Scouting" programs. Although they are of course very different idealogically, they are both youth programs which stress patriotism and morality. Indoctirnation? It's all the same. Alakhriveion 14:44, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Images

There are some nice images over at commons if someone wants to add one. [1] - FrancisTyers 23:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] merge proposal

do not merge-there are also articles on Pioneering in China, Yugoslavia and East Germany. Chris 05:26, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Basically my reason for proposal was because this article looked like the article about Pioneering in USSR. Seems like some other articles that link here, really should link to Young Pioneer organization of the Soviet Union, or vice versa. Maybe this article just needs to be cleaned up to make it clear with just a glance that there are other articles for separate countries. Obrez 07:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of countries

The list of countries that had pioneer movements seems rather incomplete. At least also Bulgaria had such a movement, and I wish somebody who knows about this would write something.--Dale Gerdemann 23:08, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Atheistic

Pioneers were active atheists or at least sceptical among believers. Xx236 13:50, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Pioneers were children. The statute of Soviet pioneers pronounced struggle against religion, among other things. Any refs for other countries? `'mikka 15:20, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I almost became a pioneer in Hungary. I'm an atheist, too, but the two things have nothing to do with each other. There is nothing about religion in the 12 points of pioneers, they are mostly patriotic things. 81.182.236.69 (talk) 03:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] More info

Added also that the Pioneer organisation was also present in Albania during the communist regime, and that it was named afer the former deceased dictator, Enver Hoxha.

I know this, because i was a pioneer at that time in the elementary school, you couldn't just say no.

Illuminati 09:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)