Talk:Pinnacle Studio

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Do others feel that this article should focus more on the current version 10 of Studio, now over a year old?--Jeffjn 09:45, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Ideally it should focus on all versions, including the differences. (But written in a more prose style, instead of lists.) Girolamo Savonarola 16:33, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I've made a modest start on Studio 10--Jeffjn 17:12, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I've now tried to include the info about St11 and tidy things up a bit--Jeffjn 18:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 It's a piece of garbage 2 Version 9 stability 3 Out Dated 4 Fair use rationale for Image:PinnaclesStudioPlus10.7.jpg 5 Bonus Features 6 Vista 7 Article must be neutral

[edit] It's a piece of garbage

As cited in the article, 23 % of the effects actually work, and all the rest are promotional for the other version, consuming as much as 10 Gb for nothing. Basic functions such as blur and grayscale are actually watermarked unless you purchase the "plus" version as well, some require you to buy the "pro" version, and on and on. It's a highly non stable software, and it is quite honestly a fraud, the box itself doesnt give any mention that most its effects require upgrade, but once you open the box, everything, including the manual, is just about the update version.

You really don't get it, do you? You were stupid enough to buy the wrong software and now you are blaming it on Pinnacle! You should have bought the Plus version rather than going for a bargain.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.237.73 (talk) 22:11, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Version 9 stability

I'd like to first point out that I have been using Pinnacle Studio 9, which while easy to use has loads of bugs and malfunctioning features and I am extremely unhappy about Avid selling me this $#*^!. Second, I'd like to enquire if the later versions are better. I have actually been thinking of buying a more professional software such as Xpress or Liquid, but since those are made the same company that provided this crappy piece of assmatter, I am very skeptical about their quality and reluctant to buy more software from a company that has proven to be of poor standard. --194.251.240.114 06:22, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

This is not the place! But anyway, firstly, make sure you've applied any free updates as all versions of Studio have been awful on release but have generally stabilised with post-releases updates. I have been very pleased with Adobe Premiere Elements v1 - as well as being stable (apart from being completely intolerant of importing MPEG, but you should use DV AVI anyway), its capabilities are way beyond anything else for around this price - 99 tracks of video and audio, unlimited stackable effects on each track each of which have editable, keyframeable parameters. It isn't as easy to use as others though, and I even found it quickest to do a rough edit in Studio 8 first. Check the system requirements of the latest version carefully as it requires fairly modern CPUs (eg not AMD Athlon, which is why I'm stuck at v1!). Halsteadk 08:50, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

All right. I know it is not the place to complain about specific problems. I just wanted to point out that the article must even better convey that Pinnacle Studio is a piece of SHIT. --80.220.68.44 17:24, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Out Dated

This article seems to be very out dated.

now many people use pinnacle 9 any more, Pinnacle is already on Ver. 11

Well... the beauty of Wikipedia is that you have the power to update it! :) Halsteadk 07:50, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I'd think it would be fair to say that this comment itself is now outdated... --Jeffjn 13:04, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:PinnaclesStudioPlus10.7.jpg

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BetacommandBot 05:08, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bonus Features

"Pinnacle is open to criticism for deceptive marketing practices because the company requires additional fees to "activate" numerous functions of the software. Functions available only after additional purchases include many of the special effects and title effects." This is an exaggeration of an inaccurate review in Personal Computer World. All versions of Studio since 9 have come with a "Bonus material" DVD. You can install this bonus material but have to pay to remove the watermarks. Nothing on this DVD is a "function". They are premade menus, titles, transitions and special effects. Without the Bonus material S11 plus still contains 266 transitions, 67 special effects 45 menus and 26 premade titles —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffjn (talk • contribs) 08:14, 28 September 2007 (UTC)--Jeffjn 11:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

What good are all those features when they don't work? Or the whole program just crashes and crashes and crashes. Or get stuck trying to open a certain clip and never succeeds... --80.220.68.44 17:29, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Working just fine here... Perhaps you need to visit the Pinnacle Forums to sort out you hardware/software issues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.178.205 (talk) 23:20, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vista

Does Pinnacle Studio 10 Plus work on Microsoft Vista? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.79.108 (talk) 21:27, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

• Not the right place. Try a forum or the Pinnacle website Douglas C (talk) 07:17, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article must be neutral

The article, especially the silly "Criticism" section which reads nothing more like any other software product's list of gripes, must be presented from a neutral point of view. --KJRehberg (talk) 00:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)