Talk:Pierson's Puppeteer

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Contents 1 Conjecture 2 Quote 3 Puppeteer names 4 ingestion 5 Tides 6 Picture 7 claim about instability of klempere rosette 8 Potential changes

[edit] Conjecture

"Conjecture: The Puppeteers are known liars and stingy with the truth. Niven already wrote about "pocket" black holes in at least two stories, one in an early-works collection, and again in a Beowulf Shaeffer novelette included in Crashlander. Pocket holes controlled with Stasis Fields would be enough."

Isn't this original research? NHammen 02:46, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quote

The quote from The Soft Weapon:

The first man to see a puppeteer had done so during a Campish revival of Time for Beany reruns. He had come running back to the scout ship, breathless and terrified, screaming, "Take off! The planet's full of monsters!" "Whatta they look like?" "Like a three-legged centaur with two Cecil the Seasick Sea Serpent puppets on its hands, and no head."

"Take a pill, Pierson. You're drunk."

[edit] Puppeteer names

Puppeteers tend to choose centaur names? That would seem to be a pretty limited choice. See the centaur page.

How about "names from classical Greek mythology?" Schoop (talk) 15:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ingestion

"They use the "mouths" to manipulate objects, as a humanoid uses arms and hands. Respiration and ingestion are performed with an orifice on the front of the torso." Where is this stated? I don't have the books available at hand, but don't Puppeteers eat and breath through the mouths also? VikÞor [[User talk:Vik-Thor|Talk]] 03:50, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tides

The Puppeteers have millenia of experience a interstellar travellers, and have been moving their own planets around for centuries, yet they don't know what tidal forces are? I smell a red herring (or just one ignorant GP Regional President)

Noclevername 01:03, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

There was a collection of Beowulf Shaeffer stories (cannot recall the name right now) that had new text in-between the older stories that retconned this. I can't remember the details, but the puppeteers did know about tides and their claim to not understand what happened was misdirection. The current configuration of their homeworld would cause tides far beyond those Earth experiences.

12.40.5.69 (talk) 21:52, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

We need a picture of a puppeteer.

[edit] claim about instability of klempere rosette

I removed this from the page since it was more discussion than enlightening:

It should also be noted that the Klemperer rosette is a very unlikely formation for a paranoid species to choose as its own custom solar system, as this simulation (bottom of page) shows. (note, this simulation appears to suffer from major floating point innacuracies leading to instability. A more reliable source for the validity of a Klemperer rosette should be cited.)

Cromis 03:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Potential changes

Hi, has anyone read the Fleet of Worlds novel? Judging from some of its content, some (maybe a lot) of this article would need to be changed. --Kjoonlee 20:00, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I updated the section on GP Hulls, but there's probably a lot of other things that should change, too. ChrisHibbert (talk)