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[edit] Tourtière

Can sometiu8iyu9o9ui-p8i90[o0p[fgofgfi[gpofh8u0nuh9tpt/kjltnone please add something about tourtière. Practically a culinary icon in Francophone Canada. Tourtière —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.3.48 (talk • contribs) 23:45, 23 January 2008

[edit] History

Pie has been around since about 2000 B.C., around the time of the ancient Egyptians. [citation needed] At some point between 1400 B.C. (the time of Greek settlements) and 600 B.C. (the time of the decline of Egypt), the pie is believed to have been passed on to the Greeks by the Egyptians and it was becoming more popular. [citation needed]

From Greece the pie spread to Rome, somewhere around 100 B.C. by which time pies had already been around for some 1000 years. [citation needed] The first known pie recipe came from the Romans and was for a rye-crusted goat cheese and honey pie. [citation needed]

Pies appeared in England in the 12th century and were predominantly meat pies. The crust of the pie was referred to as the "coffyn" and there was generally more crust than filling. [citation needed] Sometimes these pies were made with fowl and the legs were left outside the pie to act as handles. For a long time the pastry crust was actually not eaten, serving only to preserve the moisture and flavour of the filling. [citation needed]

Pies went to America with the first English settlers. [citation needed] As in Roman times the early American pie crusts were not eaten, but simply designed to hold the filling.[citation needed]

I've moved this section of the article to the discussion tab from the main article space -- please re-integrate the material when appropriate sources can be documented. Coccyx Bloccyx (talk) 17:55, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cake vs. Pie

Will someone explain me something I never really got... what is the difference between cake and pie? --Stormwatch (talk) 16:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

The main difference between cake and pie is the general structure of the dessert. Pies are typically composed of an outer crust, with a sometimes partially-liquid filling on the inside (fruit, vegetables, fish, etc.) Cakes are commonly made of one base substance; a sweet, bread-like one (what's commonly called the actual "cake"), along with other such additions like frosting, a layer of ice cream in the middle, and food or other decorations on the top, to name a few. Look at some of the pictures of pies and cakes on their articles on here to see the difference yourself. --JamieS93 02:05, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, that was a very nice explanation. Maybe this should be added to the article, other people may have the same doubt. --Stormwatch (talk) 22:11, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Also you can't get steak and kidney cake Jooler (talk) 23:27, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Cakes are generally sweet and sugary, whereas pies often have meat and gravy in them.

cake is evil and pie is good —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.149.6.77 (talk) 13:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Correction Needed

"A peculiarity of Adelaide cuisine in the Pie floater." "In" should likely be "is," but this page being protected while being also poorly edited results in the error standing.

- Jack Vermicelli 98.209.134.64 (talk) 01:18, 12 April 2008 (UTC)