Talk:Picardy third

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I edited the explanation of the example at the end of the article. It said that the red natural sign replaced what could have been a flat sign, thus making the chord major; however, since the key signature includes a B flat, there would not have been an accidental in the case of a minor chord. Uttaddmb 19:12, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

The Kyrie movement from Mozart's Requiem in D minor K626 ends with a fifth (D and A), there is neither a major nor a minor third, so I'm taking off the part about it. -FraKctured 15:05, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC) Must have got that from an edited edition, sorry! --Lambyuk 22:03, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] No such thing as a "reverse" picardy third?

It may be exceedingly rare, but it does exist. See the ending of Mendelssohn's Characteristic Piece, opus 7 no. 7. The piece is in E Major, but ends with an utterly unexpected arpeggiated e minor chord.

[edit] Chopin's Nocturnes

Opus 27 no. 1 in c# minor, Opus 48 no. 2 in f# minor and Opus 72 no. 1 in e minor all end in extensive sections in major that cannot be called picardy thirds. Opus 55 no. 1 in f minor is a borderline case. (The two c minor nocturnes are the only minor ones not ending in major.)

38.117.238.82 04:38, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use in church music

I had always believed that the use of Picardy thirds in church music was more to do with the reinforcement of the chord created by over/undertones in an organ using just intonation.....any views?

LacyK 21:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Parallel minor in Deceptive cadence? I think not...

It says in the article that a deceptive cadence is in the parallel minor. Either I'm misunderstanding what's being said, or this is wrong. A deceptive cadence may perhaps end on anything, but usually it is on the relative minor or subdominant, not the parallel minor (as far as I know). Plus, the following explanation in the article is of a A minor chord where a C major chord is expected. So I'm going to change the article to reflect this. Tix (talk) 20:51, 11 March 2008 (UTC)