Talk:Phil Goff

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"Goff's performance in government is generally considered to be mediocre, despite his being one of the better known members of the Labour Party." - is this a legit change? Clockwork Troll 00:22, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I wouldn't say so, no. On the other hand, the original statement could probably be seen as POV as well, since there's no evidence presented to back it up. I've removed the comment about his performance altogether, although it could be re-added if a concrete source emerges to back it. -- Vardion 01:24, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Ethical or POV

"Goff is a strong advocate of putting ethical issues before national interests." Surely this is not a neutral statement, it is poly speak. It can be easily challenged, for example, Goff's handling of calls for inquiry into the Christchurch Creche (Ellis) case can be seen as putting institutional (national) issues above ethical. I'm asking for it to be removed. RichardJ Christie 22:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)