Talk:Phil Collins discography

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[edit] Reverting photographs to the article

I am reverting the recent edit which has deleted all the photographs of album covers due to fair-use problems. As of this time, whether it's a violation to use fair-use images in discographies is being debated, although current rules appear to allow this. Per WP:Album, "Some editors consider the use of image galleries in discographies an "unnecessary application" of fair use, although the practice is common and other editors see it as perfectly fair and reasonable (see e.g. Kylie Minogue discography or The Beatles discography)." As an editor who feels that an album cover is perfectly acceptable fair-use, considering the article is about the artist's works and includes a brief description of the album, its sales rankings, and popular singles, I don't think the photos should be blanket eliminated across the discographies, as is currently being done.

I know there's a debate about this happening at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musicians/Article guidelines, but no consensus has been reached and the photos currently appear to be allowed to stay per the discussion. If policy or consensus say they should go, then they should go, but otherwise, why remove albums from an album discography without any discussion? Perhaps we should allow the debate to finish first before removing more photos?

--Ataricodfish 00:22, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria #8. Fair-use images are not permitted in lists or galleries. Additionally see Wikipedia:Non-free content#Images which states that the album cover would need to be the subject of critical commentary in the article. This is possible in an article about the album itself, but not in a "list of" format. (ESkog)^(Talk) 04:21, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

As I mentioned on another page, I disagree, and would rather see consensus reached on this instead of carpetbombing all discographies. Prior discussions, such as this, show that proposals to remove images from discographies have failed. I have yet to see anything that says policy objectively states they should be removed (rule 8 uses a some subjective wording to demonstrate possibilities for use exist). --Ataricodfish 05:24, 26 May 2007 (UTC)