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[edit] Suggested update

Information provided here is largely irrelevant, incorrect and outdated.

I drafted this and feel it provides a much greater insight than what is currently present for the film:

PHANTASMAGORIA: The Visions Of Lewis Carroll

PHANTASMAGORIA is a film by Marilyn Manson with Anthonty Silva and Geoff Cox and is directed by Marilyn Manson. It is been produced by Blue Light for Wild Bunch and has a budget of $4.2m.

The script for the film has been complete as of December 2005 and shooting was scheduled to begin in January 2005. At a press conference for the film Manson (who will be playing Carroll) and Lily Cole (who will be playing Alice) showed a five-minute trailer to around sixty journalists which was generally well-received. In addition to this a sypnosis given to journalists present at the event read:

Victorian England.

A haunted writer in an isolated castle is tormented by sleepless nights and visions of a girl named Alice. He finds himself becoming a symptom of his own invention.

“Now all my nightmares know my name.”

He is Lewis Carroll. Terrified of what waits for him each night.

Though initially planned for distribution through his website Manson now plans for a conventional cinema release in mid-2007 alongside a soundtrack drawing upon original music for the film and previously unreleased songs that ‘didn’t fit elsewhere’ with the film scheduled to be completed in fall 2006.

Manson has stated his aim for the project is to ‘redefine the horror genre’ and bring it back to the days of ‘Polanski and Hitchcock’. He is also been linked with other projects such as Alexander Jodowrsky’s King Shot and an as yet untitled film with Tilda Swinton.

Manson stated in June 2006 that he sees himself ‘as more a student of film than of music’ and after Phantasmagoria is planning a trifecta of films retelling three Edgar Allen Poe stories.

Thanks for that its a definite improvement (Emperor 17:02, 25 July 2006 (UTC))
Actually checking back some anonymous editor removed a perfectly good version and put that inferior one in - I've reverted to before that and if there is anything that you still feel needs to go in then go for it but we would just be replicating our efforts. Also this needs moving again (as I think I've reverted past the redirect) but see below for a possible better move (Emperor 17:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Caps?

I can't really see why the title is in caps. Its not like that on the IMDB entry or any other mentions I have seen except one of the references where the capitalisation is part of the sites' specific formatting rules. (Emperor 17:02, 25 July 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Cast

Where did the cast information come from? The link it supposedly came from is dead. I have found this [1] which confirms most of the cast but for Living Neon Dreams rather than Phantasmagoria. The only person I can't find were they were mentioned is Tim Roth. Any ideas? --Jimmyjrg 07:41, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inaccurate Quotes/Citations

None of the quotes are at the cited page, and as for one, I don't believe 'unique' is misspelled. I'm just removing the [sic] for now, but does anyone have any better sources for the quotes?

Anakalypsis 05:43, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


The Unique part isn't about spelling -- it's about grammar. Something can't be very unique. It either is or it is not unique.


No, that's your opinion, and it's ridiculous. I've changed it. --YellowTapedR (talk) 08:22, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Plot

What is the plot, and there should be a plot section on the article just making a suggestion, not trying to sound bossy or mean. -- Metal 19:43, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Nobody knows what the plot is. Celebritarian138 21:00, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Official Website

A link is there but... how do you even access it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.106.221.56 (talk) 22:54, 30 January 2007 (UTC).

Since the link no longer works, I have removed it.Donniedarkofan2006 (talk) 17:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Score

Is M.W. Gacy still expected to contribute to the score? - MSTCrow 20:46, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Evan Rachel Wood appearing....

Isn't that just a rumor?xpoisonedxlovex —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.212.135.145 (talk) 22:28, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

It is. Maybe it should be said "It is rumoured that Evan Rachel Wood will be appearing in the film, although this has not been confirmed." And reference it to the IMDb Messageboards where these rumours gather? Would make sense. :D --Donniedarkofan2006 04:01, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wait a minute...

Erm...It says that the writer of the movie is Lewis Carol. I may be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure that's not right...I think maybe the writer is Marilyn Manson but I dunno.

-Dom —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.245.44.228 (talk) 01:50, 19 May 2008 (UTC)