Talk:Peter Tosh

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[edit] Discography

The link to "Mama Africa" links to a single by Akon that hasn't come out yet. I suspect this is not true, but I couldn't find an actual Mama Africa page. I didn't try very hard, though. Just pointing that out, this article is pretty good but certainly has room for improvement. Atinoda 17:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Intro comments

To all those who helped write this page: thanks much. All I know about Peter Tosh was when I grabbed a couple of his songs and found them unbelievably moving. It's quite cool to come here and find out more about him.

Tosh was the Malcolm X to former bandmate Bob Marley's Martin Luther King, Jr.

I'm really torn on this phrasing. On the one hand, it immediately helped me understand the dynamics described through the rest of the article. On the other hand, though, this is because I already know the relationship between Malcolm and MLK. Perhaps it would be better to describe, briefly, the roles that both Tosh and Malcolm played as compared to the roles that Marley and King played. DanKeshet 18:21 Apr 8, 2003 (UTC)

This sentence makes no sense to me at all. It almost reads that Martin Luther King, Jr was part of Bob's band. Could someone please re-write this sentence so it isn't so ambiguos.

I think it should be removed entirely. The differences between Marley and Tosh are exaggerated in this article. Both Marley and Tosh supported the rights of indigenous and Black people, and there is no real difference in the level of militancy. Marley may have been portrayed in a "softer" light than Tosh, but that's largely due to personal styling and marketing, and not substance. Of course, the differences between MLK and Malcom X are similary exaggerated (the "whitewashing" of MLK), but this article can't assume knoweldge on the topic and therefore the analogy is not clarifying. Marley and Tosh shared contempt for Babylon, and it's simply not fair to say that one was radical and the other reformist (what this article currently implies) Bugg42 19:13, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
I agree with Bugg42's point, but whoever is above that, I hope you're not a first language English speaker. If you're not, you should know that it's fairly common when comparing dynamics to say "So and so was the so and so to so and so's so and so". Yes I realise that was a long string of the same few words over and over, but you know what I mean. It in no way implies Dr. King was in a band. If you're a first language speaker, read a book, read a book, read a muh-f***in' book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.170.82.30 (talk) 15:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand how he died. Is the article saying he was burgled and killed by one of his personal friends? --Bastie 12:24, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Bastie, it is commonly believed he was assassinated by the CIA for his various militant political views, having just won a major award and experiencing a sudden surge in his popularity at the time. I'll try to find some encyclopedic info on this and post here.

[edit] Music For Old Fogies (2005)

I've never heard of this album, and it looks like graffiti to me, but I want to make sure that's the case before it's reverted. If there is in fact a new release from the Tosh estate, I haven't seen it at my radio station, and I need to pester the music director to get a copy! Bugg42 22:23, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Peter Tosh had an interest in marketing, as his most famous song makes abundantly clear, and as one who works in the field I can say with confidence that it is not credible that anyone would market his music as for old fogeys, whereas an ignorant youth is highly likely to have written such a jape comment. So I didn't bother trying to source it before removal, SqueakBox 23:08, 19 October 2005 (UTC)


I have also heard an album called "Live and Dangerous". It is fantastic, I was surprised to not see it listed in the discography.

[edit] birthdate

i have seen publications listing his birth as April 6th ...

The most common date is 9 October, and that's what both our main sources have. I've changed it from 19 October. -- JackofOz (talk) 01:27, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Downtrodden etc

Even though I admire Peter Tosh greatly, we could do without the following quote:

  • His lyric "I don't want no peace, I want equal rights and justice!" would become a rallying cry for the world's downtrodden masses.

People over the mental age of 18 tend to sneer at such writing, and they're right. elpincha 21:52, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I am not quite sure I agree with your statement but the sentence you found seemed like original research as I am not aware that it or anything Tosh said has has become a rallying cry for the masses. Any mature, over 18's insight is likely to not have that popular feel anyway, "si se puede" etc isnt exactly mature stuff but it seems to win elections, SqueakBox 22:09, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peter Tosh' height

That surprises me because I didn't know that Peter Tosh is over 6' 3" tall. I almost thought that he is as tall as Bob Marley.

Tosh was the tall one, Marley and Bunny Wailer were both much smaller, SqueakBox 17:21, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

"I don't want no peace" What a moron... Santan666

At the risk of starting a debate, he didn't want peace because he didn't want to live in a world where people of African descent were oppressed, as they were in his time and they were in ours. He was willing to fight for that. I don't agree with him, but it's not very fair to call him a moron.Atinoda 17:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Might I suggest you find and read the full lyrics to the song Equal Rights before you come to a conclusion? In the words of Bob Dylan: "Don't criticize what you can't understand". Respectfully, SamBlob (talk) 01:13, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Place of death

This doesn't seem to be specified beyond "his house". Since the article doesn't make it clear whether or not he was still living in Trenchtown at the time, this is quite an omission. 86.136.253.86 13:15, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

According to the following link, his house was in Kingston, does not say what part of the city. Mentioned at bottom of page. [1] --Halmass (talk) 12:26, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Any documentation of the M16 guitar?

I remember seeing photographs of Peter Tosh with a guitar shaped like a M-16 assault rifle. It looked like it had Telecaster pickups and a '70s-style Stratocaster neck. Is there any citable documentation available regarding this guitar? Respectfully, SamBlob (talk) 23:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)