Talk:Perspectivism

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In all morphological occurrences through the prospect of time, I believe it is unmistakeably doubtless that Friedrich Nietzsche is the first (inasmuch is to be so far considered apparent) perspectivist, which is immediately notable from his manuscripts--specifically note, The Will to Power Vintage Books Edition, September, 1968, edited by Walter Kaufmann, p. 149, subh. 259 (1884). Now, someone can very easily grasp the essence of perspectivism as a view, but it is also important to represent how Nietzsche also viewed perspectivism within its own context (viz., its tenability, wherefores, etc.), and that could thus be tied in his corresponding article. In any event, the case stands thus. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.136.148.208 (talk) 19:51, 5 December 2004 (UTC).

[edit] This article could do with some revision.

From a lay persons point of view reading this article it comes out as being completely cryptic. I think maybe it needs to be broken down or simplified to aid understanding. I admit Ive not got the widest vocabulary of all Wikipedias readership but in its current form this article is totally unassailable without extensive use of Wiktionary. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.113.57.163 (talk) 17:06, 23 February 2007 (UTC).

I'm with that guy ^. The article tells essentially opens with what perspectivism isn't! e.g. "contrasted with objectivism"... "differs from the many kinds of relativism". And then when it does tell us what perspectivism is, it does so in a way that is vastly obtuse and verbose, "Perspectivism is the delineation of vantage points as formal constituents within networks or systems of perspectival schemata, it moreover emphatically assesses rules according to contingent circumstances of those contextual perspectives". I have two post graduate degrees and all I have to say about that sentence is: huh? Someone, please fix this stuff up so that someone without a degree is philosophy can figure it out. Bilz0r 08:45, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Indeed. I think the most important thing the article can express is how a third view (the first and second being absolutism and relativism) is possible, and what such a view would be. That, in and of itself, would neatly explain "perspectivism," as well as how it fits in with the two more familiar schools of thought. -69.47.186.226 05:13, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I had quite a hard time understanding this article. I am sure it is an interesting concept, but it is not readily accessible to a lay person or non philosophy student. 69.21.24.44 18:36, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm not certain even Nietzsche would understand what the author of this article is trying to say. The concept itself doesn't seem to be that complicated but all substance is lost in pretentious babble. 213.112.137.175 17:16, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I was definelty surprised that there are theories making Nietzsche the "founder" of the perspectivism! Persepectivism is a philosophy having it's roots earlier than the 19th century. Perspectivism started when art started, when perspective paintings were painted, when music started using a perspective (Bach!) ... and the perspectivism is from a philosophic point of view nothing more or less than to look at things from all sides without juging (a priori) only from one point of view. Taking Nietzsche's philosophy to explain the perspectivism is like using a blind man's description of a landscape. I'd really like to get deeper into this, but there's too much investigation on the right sources to do. I'd suggest to take this article off for some time ... before the world believes that Nietzsche invented the perspectivism! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.169.79.176 (talk) 00:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I've just registered myself to Wikipedia to document that the statement before was made by me ... and, that I'll soon take the time to prove my statement in a scientific and resumable way ...

Yo Ralf, thanks for registering. Have you considered the possibility that the term "perspectivism" describes different things in different contexts? Nietzsche may have been the originator of an obscure philosophical theory that happens to be called "perspectivism" that is not directly related to the painting/music theories. Skomorokh ^incite 00:44, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Skomorokh, if what you say is the case then there must be a split -> between this (and many other) obscure theories Nietzsche had and an existing philosophical root ... binding "Perspectivism" to Nietzsche in a way this article does is misleading many that can not know otherwise! Let me ajust that it was exactly art and music that led to a new way of looking at, behind, over, under and from any direction at one object ... not saying it's all green just because the front of that object is green, but from behind it's white, from under it's blue and at a certain angle it has a small red point ... I like the discussion very much but I'm close to twenty years out of this subject ... please give me the time to research my own resources and to provide reliable information ... thanks already for your time and attention, Ralf —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ralf.klatt (talk • contribs) 01:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

No problem Ralf, take your time. Wikipedia has a rule against original research, so if you can dig up some reliable sources that explicitly link the perspectivism attributed to Nietzsche to these art movements, we can go ahead and correct the article accordingly. Skomorokh ^incite 01:10, 10 December 2007 (UTC)