Talk:Perso-Arabic script
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[edit] Extension: a list of languages
Probably, the description of uses of the scriot in different languages should go here.--Imz 00:21, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Proposed merge
Oppose - As far as I can tell the Persian alphabet article is about the primary means of writing the Persian language, and only the Persian language. The Perso-Arabic script article is about the general Arabic script orthography as it has been extended to Persian, Urdu, Pashto, and other languages nearby. Admittedly, the Perso-Arabic script article does not do a good job of expressing this distinction very well, but merging the two would not maintain a world-wide view of the the Perso-Arabic script, nor adequately describe the specific nuances of the primary writing system used for Persian. –jonsafari 23:11, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
- OK, so modify it. Jahangard 17:00, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- However, I think these issues can be explained in "Persian alphabet". See Arabic script and Cyrillic script which are redirected to Arabic alphabet and Cyrillic alphabet. The distinctions that you have mentioned can be expressed in a section of "Persian alphabet". Jahangard 17:13, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
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- You might notice at the top of the Arabic alphabet article is a tag which states that the article might not represent a worldwide view. This is exactly because speakers of many other languages which use the Arabic script, eg. Urdu, Pashto, Persian, Hausa, etc., feel that the article centers too much on the Arabic language. That is, the article confuses the Arabic alphabet and the Arabic script. The latter is the general abjad writing system, and the former is the specific implementation of the Arabic script as it applies to the Arabic language. The same issue arises with the Perso-Arabic script vs. the Persian alphabet. Merging the two would likewise result in problems with not representing an international viewpoint of the Perso-Arabic script, and/or not delving into enough detail as to the specific implementation of the script as it applies to the Persian language.–jonsafari 03:22, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Support - I support the proposed merger. Strongly. This page started out as a redirect to the Arabic alphabet, which is not really accurate, and went through an incarnation as a redirect to Persian.
I agree with Jonsafari about the world-view perspective, but I just don't see the need to elevate "Perso-Arabic" to anything other than a synonym for the Persian alphabet. If we were to do that, we would need special pages for the groups of variants on the Latin alphabet - "German-type" alphabets in which the /v/ phoneme is rendered by W, "Scandinavian-type" alphabets in which y represents a high, rounded front vowel (the German umlauted u), "French-Spanish-type" alphabets where the y is used as in English, "Czech-type" alphabets where ... Do I really have to go on?
Just because some unnamed (and uncited) "scholars" may have used the term does not mean that Wikipedia needs a distinct page on the topic. It could be a disambig page, with links to both Persian and Arabic.
--Cbdorsett 10:15, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Foolish to merge
This article isn't just about Persian. It is about a script which is used to write languages as varied as Arabic, Persian, Urdu, Pashto ,Kashmiri, Malay, Sindhi etc. The name may sound confusing but is in no way restricted to only the Persian language.
As the History of Arabic Alphabet the Persian Alphabet a history of it own. It need to be covered here. When and in what stage the Persian stared adopting the Arabic alphabet? When did they start to modify the Arabic Alphabet? For example the classic Persian lacked /g گ/ and /j ژ/ up to mid 16 century. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.215.56 (talk) 23:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] IPA2
Please see the discussion at Talk:IPA2. Thanks. --Amir E. Aharoni 08:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
