Talk:Permeable paving

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This article needs more data, less product references. The Xenex references are not really appropriate, and the picture is probably copyrighted with no full use.

The trend has been for more coverage and less pavement over time. Among the most competitive systems currently are plastic meshes made from reclaimed plastic bottles. These allow full vegetation cover above. These replace systems which came before which have half pavement and half open ground. All of these systems are typically used for pedestrian or bike ways or public spaces more often than roads because under heavy use the life span is far less than that of typical non-permeable paving. -- M0llusk 22:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Something tells me that permeable paving only works where temperatures never drop below freezing. Freeze-thaw cycles are a common cause of potholes and other pavement destruction in cold climates, and anything that allows more water in/under the surface will make it worse. Can anybody confirm (or refute) that? If true it should be mentioned. 66.167.213.169 03:43, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

My search for attribution revealed an article [1] that indicates that freeze/thaw cycles, if properly anticipated, need not be an insurmountable problem. MrRedwood (talk) 01:17, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

A search for the quote "This is potentially the most important development in urban watersheds since the invention of the automobile" reveals two sites, [2] and [3], both of which attribute it to Bruce Ferguson, who is listed first among the References at the end of the article. Searching Google Books for this indicates it is from the book's Preface -- but no page number is visible. Amazon doesn't find my search key (probably poor OCR), but navigation to the same page is possible, and indicates the Preface is part of unnumbered 'Front Matter'. The book runs $150 on Amazon, and isn't available in the San Francisco Public Library, so my research ends here.

There were no Google hits on the "holy grail" quote. MrRedwood (talk) 01:17, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

       what the heck!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.210.180.206 (talk) 02:47, 15 February 2008 (UTC)