Talk:Perilla

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Would some Wikipedian please add photos of shiso so those of us new to it can identify it in Asian markets? I keep finding something very close to it here in San Diego California, in such markets; however, even though the English tags call it a 'basil' or a 'mint' the rest of the tags are in Thai, Vietnamese or Tagalog since these markets are geared mostly to people from SE Asia. Thanks.

Contents 1 species vs genus 2 Can skin contact with perilla cause dermatitis? 3 Additional photo 4 Species 5 Korea 6 Indonesia

[edit] species vs genus

This article is (was) about the species for which Perilla is also the common name. Rather than changing the article, how about moving it to Shiso and creating a new one for the genus? -- WormRunner | Talk 17:49, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

It seems User:Ricardo Carneiro Pires has already made a Perilla frutescens article, which is a bit unfortunate since the interlanguage links are now split between the two articles. Most people will not realise there is a Japanese article on the subject. I suggest we either

1. insist that the culinary use article be considered the species article (which would either mean reverting Perilla frutescens to be a redirect toward Perilla, or moving the current content of Perilla to Perilla frutescens), or
2. we use interlanguage links indiscriminately if they only exist for either genus or species.

Wikipeditor 16:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Can skin contact with perilla cause dermatitis?

This here kibotext says there are Japanese pickled perilla buds/blossoms (as opposed to leaves or seed), and that leaves are called ohba (is this the article's aoba?). More interestingly, it says:

"I'm told cows won't eat wild perilla, and Asian workers who harvest perilla often get dermatitis from it."

Can anybody confirm this? – Wikipeditor 22:33, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

I really doubt it. My mum recently picked a lot of perilla, but her hands are fine. You could say Korean perilla could might be different from Japanese perilla — a friend of mine who has lived in both Korea and Japan tells me they taste totally different — but I doubt it would be consumed in Japan if it can cause apparent health problems. --Kjoonlee 16:30, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Right. If it irritated your hand, it would irritate your mouth as well. Besides, I notice the chemistry section already informs the reader about the bovine consumption issue. Wikipeditor 16:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Additional photo

I have an additional photo available, showing growth form. It is included here, feel free to add to the article if useful. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 15:23, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Species

I'm afraid we need the help of an expert to insert a list of species into the article:

The commercial vendor [1] and the pop-up menu at [2] list many species, [3] lists "Perilla arguta; Perilla frutescens; Perilla fruticosa; Perilla nankinensis; Perilla ocimoides" and hort.purdue.edu says "[Apart from Perilla frutescens (L.) Britton, t]hree other Perilla species are recognized by some authorities, but the distinctions are ambiguous, and a taxonomic revision is needed." :( Wikipeditor 16:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Korea

I think there needs to be a source on "it is also known to cause disruption of lung and cancer". That's a pretty egregious claim

Agreed. I removed it pending a reference. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 11:38, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Indonesia

This is completely different from kemangi, which is Lemon basil. I don't know if Perilla is common in Indonesia at all.