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[edit] Performance art

The current entry here actually better describes "performing arts". Performance art is a more specialist term that refers to performance that is connected to the "fine arts" (painting, sculpture etc), and particularly to the avant-garde and postmodernist traditions in Western culture. That said, it is a sod to define and so I won't try now. But feel free to nag me if you want and I'll get round to it (unless someone else does). Ireneshusband

I've tried to improve it but, as you say, it's a sod to define. Feel free to hack it around as you see fit. --Camembert
Good work. Well done! -- Ireneshusband 07:28, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

I hope my pic does illustrate performance art! That's what I've heard this kind of outdoor art called. If I'm wrong, I'll remove it. -- Adrian Pingstone 21:32 Mar 23, 2003 (UTC)

Yep, that's performance art alright. --Camembert

Actually, it is hard to know if that is performance art (in it's lineage within the history of art) or a form of street theatre. Who is the artist?

(cutting it) I suppose that's true - I think it's a fair enough picture to illustrate the article though, at least until we get one of Acconci or somebody... --Camembert

[edit] Cabaret Voltaire

Also your link to Cabaret Voltaire as an early form of performance art erroneously connects to the 1980's band called Cabaret Voltaire, who are not performance artists but musicians. The original Cabaret Voltaire, was a mutli-disciplinary cabaret and is considered an early precursor to contemporary performance art. It began in Zurich in 1916.

No, I think that link is correct - if you look at their article, you'll see it says "Their earliest performances were dadaist-inspired performance art". We could probably do with one to the other Cabaret Voltaire though - I think there's an article on it somewhere, but I can't seem to find it for the minute. --Camembert
(Found it --Camembert)

Sorry, I have no idea who the artist in my picture is, I just came across him while on holiday in Paris.
Adrian Pingstone 09:06, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)

[edit] new picture for contemporary performance art

The quality of this picture is not great but I think it serves well as a picture for this article: the work in itself is a question on what performance is (danger? real feelings?) and how it can be documented and how this documentation is an altered view of what the real thing was. If I can get a better photo of this work, I will post it.

[edit] List of performance artists

I have concerns that the list of performance artists in this article is an easy target for sneaky vandalism. I'd like to propose categorizing everyone on this list as Category:Performance_artists, and removing the list. Any comments? -- Norvy (talk) 05:10, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

It looks like that category has been around a while. But I think the proper wiki format is an article of the list. Here are some other examples:

Clubmarx 23:58, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

The specific problem I have with a list is that people may add someone who doesn't belong, and those who actually follow that person won't know about it, because nothing happens to their page. But I would support breaking it out to a List of performance artists, if you think it's needed. -- Norvy (talk) 00:40, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

I have taken a leaf from Wikiwizard Krash who moved a list of magicians from the foot of Magic (illusion) to a new article titled List of magicians - I have just created a stub List of performance artists to which I have moved the list from Performance art. Hope it makes sense!thegirlinwhite 22:31, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] performance art

hi there. i am with you about the invidious business of listing artists - vanity does seem to be the criterion for inclusion for some of the entries. perhaps editors such as yourself need to use a simple rule of thumb - perhaps if google does not draw a result on an entry or there is no press file at that person's wiki or web site then they are perhaps a candidate for deletion?

i think it would less of a clutter to follow your suggestion of lists appearing in categories - but even THESE would need pruning along the above lines.

i also note with disappointment that the pictures used are of street entertainers. perhaps we should upload images of marina abramovic, hermann nitsch or joseph beuys? otherwise there is the danger of bathos in that the text is fine but undermined elsewhere.

the authority on this area of arts practice is generally regarded to be lois keidan of british cultural research insitute live arts development agency.

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tgiw thegirlinwhite 11:30, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image moved

I have moved image:performance.art.london.arp.500pix.jpg to Street theatre as this kind of presentation is not "Performance art" as defined in this article, but street entertainment, carried out by actors, not artists. Tyrenius 23:54, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wrestling

Performance art also appears to be the best way to refer to proffesional wrestling. Whilst it barely qualifies as art due to the low-brow nature, the use of this term seems to be necessary to mitigate the offense caused by labelling it as staged to a completely different degree than sport. If this could be added near the bottom, or a better term found, it would deflame the debate at that page, where this article is bizarely the first link.86.128.121.119 20:59, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Unreferenced" tag

My last edit summary should have read "added 'Unreferenced' tag," but I accidentally hit the Enter key before I was finished. I know that there is a source cited, so the tag isn't entirely accurate (it says that the article does not cite any sources), but one source is hardly enough for this topic. Skiasaurus (talk) 15:00, 11 May 2008 (UTC)