Talk:People Can Change

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This article was nominated for deletion on , 27 September 2007. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

People Can Change is a major organization within the ex-gay movement. It is the largest non-religious, non-research organization that helps men overcome unwanted homosexual attractions. Most of the major ex-gay organizations link to it, including the National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality[1], International Healing Foundation[2], PFOX[3], Evergreen International[4], Jews Offering New Alternatives to Homosexuality[5], Courage International[6], Positive Alternatives to Homosexuality[7] and North Star[8].

It has been discussed in several newspapers, including Deseret Morning News Article[9], Conservative Voice[10], and Life Site[11] as well as the Spanish Forum Libertas[12].

As far as importance or significance of People Can Change, it is well noted for its experimental weekend Journey Into Manhood [13] and its publication A M.A.N.S Journey[14] created by the co-creator of the weekend, Dave Mathesen, which is used by Evergreen International[15], and was presented at the 2003 Conference on Homosexuality: Current Trends in Research and Therapy[16].

Another significant contribution was its survey "Why Change? Survey of Men With Unwanted Same-Sex Attractions (SSA) on the Factors Motivating Their Desire to Change"[17], which received positive coverage in the Christian NewsWire[18] and negative reviews by Ex-gay Watch[19] and Box Turtle Bulletin.[20]

I believe I have shown enough evidence that this is a significant organization, with several outside references to the organization. Please give me time to incorporate this information into the article. Joshuajohanson 02:27, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Because of the references you have provided above, I have prodded the article instead, to give you the time to improve the article and incorporate the references you have given here. Aecis^Brievenbus 11:52, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Press Release???

I noticed both the article by Marketwire and the one by Christian Newswire were called press releases and People Can Change was given credit for, not only writing them, but publishing them. Why do you think these articles are press releases? I see no indication that People Can Change wrote either one of these articles, and they definitely didn't publish them.Joshuajohanson 08:20, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Failed Schoolastic review

I see both the Why Change? survey and the M.A.N.S Journey were removed with the explanation that they didn't meet scholastic standards. The inclusion of these articles was not meant for scholastic purposes. M.A.N.S. journey is the theoretical basis for Journey into Manhood. It is not meant to represent academias view on homosexuality, just how People Can Change view it, which I think does belong in an article on People Can Change. The Why Change? survey was just that, a survey. It gives you an idea of the people who attend People Can Change, not ex-gays in general.Joshuajohanson 08:33, 3 October 2007 (UTC)