Talk:Pediment

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I think that an image of a Pediment would greatly improve this article, however I'm not familiar with how to insert it. There is an image on "Architecture of Ancient Greece" page [1] that could be used. It is Ac.pediment.jpg [2]

Ok! The article needs help. --Mario todte 16:40, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I think, so it is just a little bit better than before. --Mario todte 17:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I am about to remove a couple of links

(see: Pere Lachaise Cemetery ) and architectural revivals because neither one leads, as far as I can see, to any place that sheds any light on pediments. The architectural revivals idea is a good one (opinion) - only the links goes someplace that does not, as far as I can see, deal with architectural revivals. So if you are attached to these links speak real soon, or fore ever hold your peace [piece?]. Carptrash 02:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Greek Nat Acad link on 1st picture broken hjuk 08:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I just removed or tympanum,

from the beginging of the article and probably some of the tympanum stuff later should go too. The T word is defined, (do we need sources listed here?) as Space between the lintel at the top of a doorway and the arch shape above it. This is not what this article suggests and certainly (opinion) tympanium is not another word for pediment. Carptrash 13:59, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Will bow to yr knowledge. I don't claim to be an expert. WOuld it be worth visiting the definition on the disambig page or having a short page about the T thing. DO you know what you'd call a decorative panel on the outside of a building that looks like a T thing? hjuk 19:48, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not claiming to be an expert either, I just have a dictionary. What shape is the panel? And where is it located on the building? What is the building? When was it built? Until then, I'd call it Fred. Carptrash 21:09, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply - it's the same triangular shape as the pediment shown in the picture on the Wikipedia pediment article, on the front wall of a late Victorian London building. hjuk 08:20, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, okay. I have continued delving into the black hole of my ignorance and have discovered that "tympanum" sculpture CAN include the sculpture inside a pediment, but the term is not synonymous with the term pediment. Rather it can refer (and this is definitely meaning #2 ) to the space inside the moldings of a the pediment, so calling that sculpture "tympanum sculpture" is (a new, revised opinion) correct. So, what is the building? I have an Architecture of London book somewhere and am curious. Carptrash 15:54, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Quite an 'umble building - Grand Parade in Harringay. Check the page; there's a picture of the decoration in question on there. hjuk 22:02, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Here is the thing. I have an opinion on pretty much everything, and offer them as such. I would not call the design in the tympanum that you just sent me to a Chimera. Rather I'd label it a green man face. We can discuss this more if you like, but that's a start. Or next step. Or something. Carptrash 22:49, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Certaanly looks like a Green Man from the Wiki entry. But I note that the phrase seems only to have been coined in 1939. I wonder what term was used prior to this. Also note that the GM entry is categorised as unreferenced. Doesn't mean it's wrong, but leaves me wishing I had THE architectural guide sitting here next to me. hjuk 06:45, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I too have been looking for THE architectural guide and have not yet discovered it. However, in my home I'm surrounded by several hundred not-so-perfect other books and just found this quote, ^[1] that there are four main types of Green Man . . .. the spewing or uttering headwhere leaves or foliage emerge from the mouth . . .. - which is what the one in Harringay is. I'll see what I can find about the origin of the Green Man, but Harding suggest that it goes back to at least a medieval English poem "Gawain and the Green Knight." Life. What a great place to live. Carptrash 13:50, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Sheridan and Ross contain a chapter in their book ^[2] called The Green Man, or Jack o' the Green, and suggest that the letter term was an old one. And so it goes, on and on and on.

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