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Ruthlessly replaced by current text: The Pazzi family is famous for its conspiracy to kill Lorenzo de' Medici, termed the Pazzi conspiracy in 1478.

When Pope Sixtus IV needed to borrow money and went to Lorenzo de' Medici, he was turned down due to a disagreement over a personal matter. Sixtus then turned to the Pazzi family to borrow money, and quickly made a member of the Salviati family (who were also hostile to the Medici) the archbishop of Pisa.

The Pazzi family quickly put together a plan to assassinate Lorenzo as he was leaving church. The plan was widely known, even the pope was reported to have said "I support it, as long as no one is killed." The assassination attempt failed in killing Lorenzo, but succeeded in killing his younger brother Giuliano. As retribution, Lorenzo had hundreds of people executed, including a cardinal and the archbishop of Pisa. Lorenzo also moved on to remove any of the last vestiges of democratic government in Florence, replacing all members of council with de' Medici supporters.

Are there any details that were omitted from the revised text that anyone wants to defend as historically accurate? Wetman 11:20, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] "Madmen"

"Pazzi" means "madmen" in Italian, but there is no relation, isn't it?

Those medieval nicknames that stuck are sometimes worse than that: I knew a Sicilian family named "Mangiafico" (emphasis on the "JA")!Wetman
Actually, there is a legend (see this page) that that is the source of the family name; and there is still an annual ceremony associated with the name. No time to verify it and add it to the page, though! Noel 00:59, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Palazzo Pazzi

The Palazzo Pazzi, the family palace, currently serves as an exhibition hall. No that's the Palazzo Pitti. Wetman 18:27, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Well, the massive "Palaces of Florence" doesn't cover the Pazzi Palace, but I found a web site that says it's now the Palazzo Quaratesi, which "is now, by will of its last owner - a German - administered for a charity in the town of Como". (On the other hand, the same site claims that "Next the Montalvo Palace once stood the ancient palace of the Pazzi, which has been demolished for the national Bank, one of the finest modern buildings of Florence.", so take that with the proverbial grain!) I couldn't find out what the Palazzo Quaratesi is used for now. Noel 00:50, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
PS: There's also the Palazzo Nonfinito, which occupies a space which once was held by the Pazzi (and indeed, the corner was known as the "Canto dei Pazzi"). A member of the Strozzi bought it all in 1592 and tore down the Pazzi houses, and started to build a magnificent pile, but never managed to get it finished (hence the name). It today (after many other interesting roles) houses the Anthropology Department of the University of Florence.
I entered the 1873 Susan and Joanna Horner reference, without adjusting the text. I can't find my old guide to Florence by Bartolini or Mary McCarthy's Stones of Florence. --Wetman 20:26, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Italy's Medici Murder Plot Solved

Italy's Medici Murder Plot Solved

The Wikipedia article seems to contain some historically inaccurate details. Adraeus 20:39, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The Ubaldini letter is already mentioned. Do you wish to improve the reading Wikipedia gives it here? Be bold!Wetman 21:24, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Separate page for the Conspiracy

There used to be a separate page for the Pazzi Conspiracy, which someone merged into this page. I feel that the Pazzi's are an important enough family and topic, adn the Pazzi Conspiracy an important enough historical event, that it still deserves a separate page. What's the case for smooshing them together? Noel 00:10, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

If I were to make a heading Main article Pazzi Conspiracy and copy the text into a new article, would User:Jnc enrich it with detail and slightly condense the version here? --Wetman 20:44, 23 July 2005 (UTC)