Talk:Pavel Chekov

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Contents 1 Racist 2 Home 3 List of what Chekov has credited to Mother Russia 4 Needs to be cleaned up 5 Koenig background 6 Nuclear Wessels 7 Pravda story 8 Quote Section

[edit] Racist

Or just sheer ignorance.

-G

WTF? --EEMeltonIV 19:37, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Home

Is Chekov from Russia? In one of the books, Crisis on Centaurus, it was clearly stated that he's from a Russian lunar colony. Tualha 23:44, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Even if you accept that novel as canonical, it's not really important. Chekov is firmly grounded in Russian culture; he goes out of his way to mention Russian locations ("This place is better than Leningrad!") and historical figures ("Peter the Great once had a problem like that"). Regardless of whether he was was born on the Moon, he clearly considers himself Russian in every way that matters. -- Pat Berry 23:12, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I clearly recall a scene from Star Trek IV where Chekov continued to pronounce "vessels" as "wessels". As this is unlikely with a Russian accent (it's something more likely with Polish or Bulgarian), does anyone have any ideas? Xyzzyva 23:29, May 21, 2005 (UTC)

While we have both sounds (v and w, however written differently), I think only a very stupid Pole might mispronounce v as w. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.218.41.190 (talk) 16:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

If it helps, the actor's family immigrated from Lithuania

Incidentally, other sources state that he's from St. Petersberg.

[edit] List of what Chekov has credited to Mother Russia

I've got a list started of things Chekov has credited to Russia. I put the ones in that I remembered, if anyone has more I'd hope they would add them to the list.
JesseG 07:21, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

You forgot Wikipedia. ;)--Kross^Talk 23:35, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Needs to be cleaned up

There is a section that has:

addendum: The Generations script was hastily written. The parts were intended for Captain Spock and Doctor McCoy. Nimoy refused to be a bit player, and Kelly is rumored to have said, "If he's out, I'm out." Chekov was given McCoy's dialog, Scotty was given Spock's. Hence the two mistakes: Calling Chekov "captain", and the dialog to Scotty, "I'm glad you're an engineer instead of a psychiatrist." Later, after the El-Aurian's are aboard the Enterprise-B, Chekov drafts the reporters into nurses. More McCoy dialog. Wiki-police: Reference the Starlogs and special "Generations" magazines of the time.

This is not properly formatted, but I have no time to fix it.

- jptdrake

[edit] Koenig background

The Koenig article indicates that his family is Russian, but they claimed Lithuanian heritage during the McCarthy era. $20 says, however, that the Koenig article is quoting from the IMDb biography, and IMDb isn't exactly always right. Has anyone here actually read his autobiography or have a more reputable source one way or the other? If not, I'd suggest omitting Koenig's ethnicity; anyone who's curious can look at that article, and we can avoid discrepancy between the two. --EEMeltonIV 20:23, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

I've read his book, and he's from Lithuania, but is of Russian-Jewish descent [LMA].

[edit] Nuclear Wessels

The explanation in the text misses a possibility; that Chekov, a Russia, overcompensates for the lack of a 'w' sound in Russian, and thus makes the mistake of pronouncing 'v' as 'w'. Either that, or he learned English from someone with a specific working-class-London accent that confuses spoken 'v' and 'w'. Argyriou (talk) 17:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

There's also the possibility of phonetic shift in Russia between now and the 23rd century... - furrykef (Talk at me) 07:32, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pravda story

The snopes references doesn't go so far as saying this is outright false. Certainly it is a story that goes back a long way, appearing in a 1968 book, and the Inside Story by Solow/Justman doesn't really try to debunk it - indeed it reproduces a letter Roddenberry sent to Pravda. It might be an interesting project for someone to search Pravda back-issues. :)

But anyway, most sources are relatively open about the whole Monkees thing as well. Poor Koenig had to wear a wig at first! So the whole "Roddenberry made up this story to disguise an attempt to cash in on the Monkees" spin isn't really justified by the sources. Morwen - Talk 18:11, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quote Section

The first quote from "Mirror, Mirror" should either be taken out, or noted that the line came from Mirror Chekov and not Chekov himself. ST Intergalactic 04:43, 9 April 2007 (UTC)