Talk:Paul Ince

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GD 25/2/05. Can someone please put something in here about his transfer from West Ham to Manchester United. It was quite a big deal at the time and West Ham fans have christened Ince "Judas" for what happened here. I think it's an important part of the history but I am not knowledgable enough to write about it.

Looks like this has been dealt with. Good stuff. However, I do have a few issues with the page [which I am still updating, trying to be more positive every time ;-)]. The whole thing needs to be formatted a bit better, with subsections, so we can skip to the bits we're particularly interested in. If it's possible to divide the article into sections by club, that would be ideal, although timeframe is probably more realistic, to incorporate international-related content, and prevent short sections for clubs that don't have much written about them (Inter are hardly mentioned at all, for example). Also, more statistics are needed, appearance and goal stats (in a table at the bottom, as per Thierry Henry) would be great. The table below shows statistics by club (stats according to Soccerbase [1]), but this doesn't break down into individual seasons. I'll try to gather that info, and add this to the table at the bottom..
The player infobox is currently missing club cap and goal stats. The info needed is in the first table, but do we count everything? All competitions, including European, and including substitute appearances? I wasn't sure whether the appearance figures listed in the table were inclusive of substitute apps, but as this article credits Ince with 72 league appearances for West Ham, so it follows that they aren't. Therefore, assuming all competitions are counted, I make that:
  • West Ham: 95 (8)
  • ManU: 281 (5)
  • Inter: 30 (3)
  • Liverpool: 81 (0)
  • Middlesbro: 96 (0)
  • Wolves: 113 (9)
N (talk) last updated 17:30, 26 November 2005 (UTC). Tables below posted at the same time, please add or correct any info you can, and note your changes (and sources). Cheers..

Contents

[edit] Statistics

Key: League caps, League Goals, FA Cup caps, FA Cup Goals, League Cup caps, League Cup Goals, Other caps, Other Goals. Figures in brackets denote appearances as a substitute.
Club Joined Left Fee L LG FC FCG LC LCG O OG
West Ham 18-07-1985 14-09-1989 Apprentice 66 (6) 7 8 (2) 1 9 (0) 3 4 (0) 1
Man Utd 14-09-1989 22-06-1995 £1000000 203 (3) 24 26 (1) 1 23 (1) 2 24 (0) 1
Inter 22-06-1995 10-07-1997 £7000000 30 (0) 3 0 (0) 0 0 (0) 0 0 (0) 0
Liverpool 10-07-1997 30-07-1999 £4200000 65 (0) 14 3 (0) 1 6 (0) 1 7 (0) 1
Middlesbro 30-07-1999 06-08-2002 £1000000 93 (0) 7 7 (0) 1 6 (0) 1 0 (0) 0
Wolves 06-08-2002 £0 94 (5) 7 6 (0) 1 4 (1) 1 3 (0) 0

[edit] Club career

(correct as of ?? November 2005)

Club Season League Cup Europe Total
Apps Goals Assists Apps Goals Apps Goals Apps Goals
West Ham 1985-86 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
1986-87 10 1 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
1987-88 28 3 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
1988-89 33 3 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
1989-90 1 0 0 - - - - 1 0
 ??  ??
Man Utd 1989-90 26 0 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
1990-91 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
1991-92 0 0 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
1992-93 41 6 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
1993-94 39 8 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
1994-95 36 5 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
 ??  ??
Internazionale 1995-96 30 3 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
1996-97 24 6 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
 ??  ??
Liverpool 1997-98 31 8 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
1998-99 34 6 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
 ??  ??
Middlesbro 1999-00 32 3 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
2000-01 30 2 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
2001-02 ? 2 0 ? ? ? ? ? ?
 ??  ??
Wolves 2002-03 37 2 2 0 ? ? ? ? ?
2003-04 32* 2 1 ? ? ? ? ? ?
2004-05 28 3 1 ? ? ? ? ? ?
2005-06 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
 ??  ??
Career totals  ??  ??
*[2] disagrees on this one, but [3] and [4] say it is so.

[edit] Other statistics

  • Height: 5' 10" (178 cm)
  • Weight: 12.6 (74 kg)
  • Squad Number: 9
  • Contract Expires: June 2006 (will retire at the end of the season)
  • World Cups: 1 (France 1998)

[edit] References

[edit] Protected

I have protected this page due to the increased ammount of vandalism to this article recently, and to the number of unverified claims of him signing for different clubs. Wikipedia is neither a crystal ball nor a primary news source. This page will be protected until such a time as an announcement is made about Ince's footballing future, which should ensure stability returning to this article. Rje 02:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Retirement ?

So is Ince retired or not ?

--Clockwork Orange 17:09, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need for citations

In these biograhical articles, it is critically important to give citations for anything remotely controversial. Otherwise Wikipedia risks being sued as publisher of libel. Please cite your sources. --Concrete Cowboy 17:03, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Heritage

Does anyone know the ethnic heritage of him? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.200.70.23 (talk) 13:56, 3 March 2008 (UTC)


You spelt mathias wrong 82.0.23.254 (talk) 10:23, 30 March 2008 (UTC)