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[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:Academy Awards nominees

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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 02:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] E template issue

Your highly appropriate change of this template so that it follows the MOS guideline has been reverted by some dickhead called Knowledge Seeker. Template_talk:E#MOS_breach:_spacing_of_the_.C3.97_sign Tony (talk) 07:46, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Films coordinator elections

The WikiProject Films coordinator selection process is starting. We are aiming to elect five coordinators to serve for the next six months; if you are interested in running, please sign up here by March 28! Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 10:36, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Centralized discussion about dates

Hi Patrick. I noticed you created Category:Dates and there is currently a centralized discussion going on, at Wikipedia talk:Centralized discussion/Removal of many individual date articles, about individual date articles (after June 30, 2003 was listed for deletion by someone). Your input on these articles would be appreciated. Thanks. --Pixelface (talk) 18:56, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Age templates

Sorry about the age templates. I had tested them in all the places that I use them, but didn't think of them being used in equations. I've added nts versions of the templates at {{age/nts}} and {{age in days/nts}}. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 16:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help:Namespace

Hi Patrick. We stumbled on each others edits a lot lately, seems you are hard working in partly the same areas as I am. :)

I noticed you changed the links in the section "Template programming" that I had added to meta:Help:Namespace (Help:Namespace). Your edit comment and the change doesn't seem to match, or I am missunderstanding what you tried to achieve. So here's what I see:

  • The way you used {{mlw}} didn't change anything, as far as I can see. The way I coded it made it look exactly the same. Both ways also make the link to a local blue link on the English Wikipedia.
I agree that my edit summary does not apply, I thought on Wikipedia en: would give interwiki link style, like w:. Even so, the problem with en: is that when copying the wikitext to wikibooks etc. the target would be wrong. Also, {{mlw}} has additional Linksearch functionality.--Patrick (talk) 07:38, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
  • You used {{tiw}} on the template names. The old way I used already made the links turn local blue on the English Wikipedia. But if you really wanted to add all those tiny "( talk edit history links )" then I see what you were doing. But that adds unnecessary complexity to the text. And I think it is much better that the first-time visitors to that template come directly to Template:Main talk other and see its documentation, rather than clicking one of the "( talk edit history links )".
{{tiw}} on Wikipedia does not have a history link. I also removed the talk link. {{tiw}} and {{tim}} are the standard ways of linking to templates from help pages.--Patrick (talk) 07:40, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

As I see it you made the text dependant of more templates and thus more likely to break when replicated on other language Wikipedias and on other projects, without really adding anything. Or what am I missing?

As mentioned, avoiding en: helps in this regard. Yes, each wiki needs these templates, but there are only a few of this kind.--Patrick (talk) 07:31, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and you can respond here, I'll be watching this talk page.

--David Göthberg (talk) 03:28, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Ah now I see, thanks. I have also read up a little meanwhile, so now I understand better what you mean. (I think that was my first edit to such meta help documents.) I didn't know when I coded that that "en:" links cause problems on Wikibooks etc. And I just tested, you are right, "w:" links doesn't turn into local links here at Wikipeida. :(
And I hope {{mlw}} is available at all the projects as you say. Since I see now that you are right about it doing a better job.
So, since I don't like the extra links that {{tiw}} causes then I guess I should change all the links to using {{mlw}} to get the look I want.
This interwiki stuff is tricky.
--David Göthberg (talk) 09:10, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] {{main talk other}} now broken, please revert

Hi Patrik. I saw you stumbled on one of the more subtle details of {{main talk other}}. Empty versus not defined template parameters are not the same thing. So I left a message for you at Template talk:Main talk other. I knew I should have documented the details of that code more...

--David Göthberg (talk) 14:20, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Another admin reverted your edit, so now the template works again. That was a subtle thing so I am not surprised you didn't see it. Its pretty counter intuitive that {{{variable|default}}} doesn't produce the default for empty but defined variables.
--David Göthberg (talk) 14:49, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
I know the difference between empty and undefined, but that an empty "demospace" is supposed to work like an undefined one was only implicitly suggested in the usage example section. I added that to the Basic functionality section.--Patrick (talk) 15:19, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
I took a look, yeah good addition. Thanks for helping with ironing out the kinks in the documentation.
--David Göthberg (talk) 19:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help desk

It seems like you have helped a user with something (see [1]). However that did NOT have to do with Wikipedia, the free encylcopedia. See WP:NOT for more info on this. Nothing444 14:17, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Strictly it belongs on mw:, but the answer is as short as a link to there.--Patrick (talk) 15:48, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
yea but still Nothing444 19:55, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:Catsh

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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 21:20, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of List of non-pornographic films featuring nudity

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[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Ft

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[edit] Suppressing printing of placeholder images

Good day! I have a couple of questions.

I noticed that you wrote the Template:Image class and successfully added it to Template:Infobox actor and that placeholder images do not print on articles with Infobox actor. I presumed this was due to the class="metadata dummy" of image class but when I tried adding Image class to Template:Infobox Gridiron football person, it still shows on the print view. Did I do it incorrectly or was there something else done with Infobox actor to prevent placeholders printing?

This is also very pertinent to a discussion going on about placeholder images at Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Image placeholders and I wonder if you could pipe in with your opinion and expertise on this matter particularly in Technical limitations of present system section but, of course, generally as well.

Thanks, DoubleBlue (Talk) 01:04, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I see you fixed my capitalisation error on Infobox Gridiron football person! Much appreciated. DoubleBlue (Talk) 02:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Contents

I revised Category:Contents to be based on Wikipedia:Namespace. Since you have the most contributions to Wikipedia:Namespace (see WP Page stats), would you please look at Category:Contents and approve/modify as needed. Thanks. GregManninLB (talk) 18:31, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Project

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 17:50, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Rdt

Template:Rtd has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Kubanczyk (talk) 18:50, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Apparently should be Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Rdt.--Patrick (talk) 21:07, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion of The Elements of Dynamic Symmetry

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[edit] Proposed deletion of Clothing laws by country

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I removed the chart Diff, going to look to see if I can find a reference for anything in the text. Jeepday (talk) 22:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Found a couple references, and made a few changes per the references. Moving on to other article now. Jeepday (talk) 22:44, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Funny Games U.S.

Can you please show me where the consensus was to move this to the new title?--CyberGhostface (talk) 19:57, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

If you feel it should be moved to Funny Games U.S., then please list it at Wikipedia:Requested moves. And if you move a page, it's always good to fix any redirects that will be caused as a result. Thanks! Lugnuts (talk) 07:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

The discussion is at Talk:Funny_Games_(2008_film)#move_to_Funny_Games_U.S..--Patrick (talk) 07:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: UEFA Euro 2008

OK, fair enough, but I assume the "abbr" parameter in the table actually does something or it serves no purpose. Could we not find a less invasive way of displaying what the abbreviations stand for than a big ugly template? – PeeJay 10:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I wondered about that "abbr" too, it does not do anything, it seems. Linking the headers to an explanation is another possibility.--Patrick (talk) 10:06, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps. What we really need is a single appendix-style page that any football article can link to. It would negate the need for keys and legends in most articles. Another alternative would be making it so that the expanded term comes up as a tooltip when you roll over the abbreviation. – PeeJay 10:22, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
That is fine, but do not remove a legend before creating a proper replacement!--Patrick (talk) 20:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)