Talk:Patsy Cline

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Who ever wrote this article has never been to Camden Tennessee the crash site is still fenced off and it is inside of the town next door to a restaurant just south of the town square you need to get your facts straight.If you don't believe me call someone in Camden and they can tell you that I am right.

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The reports of Miss Cline's affairs are personal assumptions from various persons interviewed many years after her death. Most of these interviews were for use in the makings of books and such about Miss Cline. Since most of the parties mention to have been involved in these affairs were deceased, these affairs could not be proven.

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[edit] Use of Names in an Unflattering Way

First of all, I would like to thank the contributors of this talk section for mentioning Patsy Cline as a gay icon. That is certainly a very well-known fact. Patsy has had many trials and tribulations after her death, including the disregard for her in her hometown of Winchester, Virginia. Apparently, the founding fathers of Winchester seem to disregard anyone who is an entertainer. There are plans for a museum in her name in downtown Winchester, Virginia. The museum was originally scheduled to open in 2006, but now may not open until 2008.

The mis-use of Miss Cline's children, as previously named here in an unflattering way, by her second husband, was most demeaning, and I do not know if it is all factual. Some of it is factual, and some may be, but the use of anyone's last name, relative to street terms, in a demeaning way, is most ungracious to one of the biggest music icons in current popular music history.

  • I believe that you are referring to Cline's daughters name which was correctly and factually printed on the page as "Julie Dick Fudge". That is her name. Her full name is "Julia Simadore Dick Conner Fudge". (PatsyCline1Fan)

[edit] American music icon

It seems this article does not adequately state the the influence she has had on modern American pop and country music. Can anyone find any sources that illustrate the degree of reverence held towards her ability to sing a tear-jerking ballad? youngamerican (talk) 17:52, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citing Sources

This article does not include any sources or references. It is nearly impossible to tell what is original research, what's reliable information, and what is open for editorial dispute. Please see WP:CITE for more information. GregChant 04:08, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Please do not remove the citing sources notice until citations have been introduced. Not a single piece of information presented in this article has a proper citation (or even an improper one). Again, if you have any questions, please see WP:CITE for more information. GregChant 11:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

For those of you having any questions on what constitutes "introducing citations," please see WP:CITE, WP:RS, and When to cite sources for more information. Please note that fan sites do not constitute the fulfillment of having sources. GregChant 12:08, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Again, do not remove the Citation and NPOV notices until these issues have been resolved. If, after reading the applicable policies and guidelines, you do not believe you can do that, please let someone else handle it. That's what the notices are for: to indicate to the wikipedia community that these articles are in need of work. GregChant 20:26, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

"Patsy Cline (8 September 1932 – 5 March 1963) was a country music singer, who enjoyed pop music cross-over success during the era of the Nashville Sound in the early 1960s. Since her untimely death at age 30 in a 1963 plane crash during the height of her career, Cline has been hailed by fans, colleagues and music critics alike as one of the most beloved, influential and unique vocalists of the 20th century. Along with an iconic legacy that continues to endure and grow throughout the years with newer generations of fans across the globe, is her heritage of recordings that have been classified by many historians as "timeless classics"."

This is clearly POV: the entire article paints a completely rose-colored picture of Patsy Cline. She had no faults whatsoever? Wikipedia is not a eulogy. Please see WP:NPOV and WP:NOT for more information. Due to this and the complete lack of sources or references, I'm adding a NPOV notice until these issues are taken care of. GregChant 19:04, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Greg, you've raised some good points there. If you want to discuss the issue further, I'm open to discussion - I'd be willing to help rectify this. --Gold-Horn 19:06, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree the same. Whoever wrote this information will not let me change it to fit our needs because the user continually brings the old information back. I am willing to help on this. (LovePatsyCline 00:50, 3 October 2006 (UTC))

I have brought some sources to this article. I hope they might fit your needs. Please respond back to me on my talk page. (LovePatsyCline 01:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC))

In the article said that "awards such as the Grammys and CMAs weren't in existence until after her death."

Clearly this is not true. The Grammys were founded in the late 50s, which was about the same time Patsy Cline rose to fame. (LovePatsyCline 23:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC))

  • Patsy Cline rose to fame in the 60's, she had only one hit record in the 50's. There was not a specific category for female vocalists as there is NOW for the Grammy's. All country music singers that were nominated for best song (once country was recognized by the Grammy's) where tossed into the same category, male and female- if allowed. (Country Music was a man's world then). The first female country music grammy with its own actual category was handed out in 1965, (to Dottie West) two years AFTER Patsy died. The CMA awards evolved from the DJ Convention and awards handed out each year in different categories. Where, in 1962 at the convention Patsy cleaned up. Taking home not only awards for her songs, being most programed female artist but also the big award of the night "Star of the Year", I believe the first female to win that award. It later became "Entertainer of the Year" first female winning it under that name would be Loretta Lynn.

[edit] Pictures

  • Its great to see that someone finally uploaded pictures that show Patsy Cline's sense of fashion and style. As stated in the article, she was a "mover and shaker" in this area of her career as well in country music. The old screen cap previously posted was very unflattering of her.

[edit] Grammar mistake

There is an indefinite article in the first sentence that should be "an", just before "American". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.188.203.39 (talk) 01:32, 28 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] "AgeD 30"??

This seems to be determined by a template. (Note: I'm kind of new here.) Shouldn't it be "Age 30" (or "Age, 30")? "Aged" makes it seem like she's a type of cheese. --BrianMDelaney 11:38, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citations & References

See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 04:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] accident

We lived next door to the Patterson's out here in California. I remember him being disciplined for AWOL like Rick James. Does anyone know if Charlie had another girlfriend prior to Patsy, or if he was in the Navy or something, 'cuz this picture my mother had standing there with this guy sure looks a lot like Charlie and Patsy. Does anyone know if her injuries did damage to her hip, 'cuz my mother limped a lot starting at about that time?

206.170.104.48 (talk) 02:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Not Jewish

Jewish - or - not jewish? 24.127.74.198 (talk) 22:09, 19 April 2008 (UTC)