Talk:Patrick Nielsen Hayden

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	The following comments have been left for this page: [edit] Initial assessment More than a stub,but too list-y and not enough personal info to be a "B", in my opinion. -- Avi 18:39, 17 May 2007 (UTC) (edit)

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[edit] Peacock terms

Regarding the deletion of "peacock terms," Nielsen Hayden is one of the preeminent editors in science fiction (see Hugo nominations for Best Editor plus his World Fantasy Award for Best Anthology). And Tor wins the LOCUS award for Best Publisher most years.

Yes, I know him. But why not check these things before deleting based purely on sound? Pleasantville 22:15, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Following the advice given to writers for generations, we try to "show it, don't say it." So rather than saying the subject is "preeminent" we should show his preeminent standing in the community. See "Wikipedia:avoid peacock terms". -Will Beback · † · 22:22, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Mentioning his World Fantasy Award in the first sentence would be a good way of establishing prominence and avoiding peacockery. --Akhilleus (talk) 03:25, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Fixed peacockery. What about section about books he's acquired? Spin, Tooth and Claw/ Farthing, etc. Torie 21:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)