Talk:Patrick Musimu

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Removed:I think 'performance' should be used instead of 'prestation'.

>His dive does not constitute a formal world record, because he has broken all >ties with the worldwide freediving organization AIDA.

AIDA is not *the* worldwide freediving organization. There are others: FREE, IADFSA (or how is it spelled). There is (or still recently has been) much of fight between these. There were disputes between AIDA and Mr. Musimu about the safety of some of AIDAs regulations (Musimu would probably not do the dive under current AIDA rules, he considers them dangerous for this kind of depths!). He explains very reasonably on his website. These troubles are well known in the free diving community and have been a subject of dispute for a long time. For example another top free diver, Francisco Ferreras, also failed to agree with AIDA and this led to the creation of IADFSA with its own ``official records which AIDA did not recognize and vice-versa.

Unless we are able to point to a basic article about these internal fights, which provide a context to such information, I don't think it's good or objective to use the word ``official in any way related to free diving.

As for the credibility of the depth reached, it was verified by a company who makes the computers that are also used by AIDA. There is a video of the whole dive. Patrick Musimu reached the depth and he didn't blackout or samba or anything after he surfaced.

I'm not an expert on freediving. But this is my understanding of the situation.

--hhanke 16:12, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Well, both IAFD as FREE are not functional any more. CMAS does have a freediving section but doesn't currently recognise records. Normally, depth records are measured by distance of the rope, not the computer. In other words, if the computer measures 88.4 meters, but the rope is 89 meters in length, the record is 89 meters. Based on the documentary on Patrick's record, if AIDA would have judged Patrick's attempt, it would be 210 meters, instead of 209.

Based on the documentary, I can't see why the record could not be judged according AIDA rules. In my experience, AIDA has shown to be reasonable towards requests that could increase safety. Anyway, there are divers out there training to break Musimu's record, so in time, this discussion will solve itself.

Apneist 10:58, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] prestation

I found a definition of prestation which identified it as an African word meaning a kind of forced labour.

Mr Musimu may be of African origin, but there's no indication that he's forced to dive to these extraordinary depths.

I agree with the earlier suggestion that 'prestation' should be replaced with 'performance' Pavium 13:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

My guess is that the original used prestation was derived from the Dutch word prestatie referring to performance or achievement. A case of bad translation? Apneist 10:58, 19 May 2007 (UTC)