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  • Pastoral - not very encyclopedic; needs subheadings; hard to follow; poor flow. --tomf688(talk) 00:09, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)

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Swapped Wordsworth's name with Alexander Pope. Wordsworth's (along with Ambrose Phillips) pastoral poetry represented a break from the Virgilian tradition, not a continuation of it, around the turn of the century. --JH 69.236.37.131 10:51, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

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Interesting but perhaps fails "undue weight" policy:

"Other uses of the pastoral setting" A harsher note was struck in Girolamo Fracastoro's 1530 poem Syphilis, sive Morbus Gallicus ("Syphilis, or the French Disease"), in which Syphilus ("pig-lover"), a typical pastoral name for a shepherd, is stricken by the disease syphilis that takes its name from Fracastoro's poem. Fracastoro's poem contains the first recognisable description of the symptoms of syphilis (today, few contemporary physicians announce their discoveries in verse, pastoral or otherwise). Fracastoro has Syphilus the shepherd catch it for having offended Apollo, a somewhat unusual method of infection. Fracastoro's Latin poem was much admired in its day; it was translated into English heroic couplets by Nahum Tate:

Fracastorius warns the shepherd Syphilus to drink only from a pure fountain, as a dog pollutes the stream: engraving by Jan Sadeler I after Christoph Schwartz
Fracastorius warns the shepherd Syphilus to drink only from a pure fountain, as a dog pollutes the stream: engraving by Jan Sadeler I after Christoph Schwartz
A shepherd once (distrust not ancient fame)
Possest these Downs, and Syphilus his Name;
Some destin'd Head t'attone the Crimes of all,
On Syphilus the dreadful Lot did fall.
Through what adventures this unknown Disease
So lately did astonisht Europe seize,
Through Asian coasts and Libyan Cities ran,
And from what Seeds the Malady began,
Our Song shall tell: to Naples first it came
From France, and justly took from France his Name. . .

Pastoral paintings, likewise, were typically used to give the respectability of the classics to paintings of nymphs, swains, satyrs, and other mostly human legendary creatures frolicking in neatly tended hills and woods in a state of perpetual déshabillé. In contemporary times, it is a whole genre of sexual fantasy that fell almost completely out of fashion.

See also: Et in Arcadia ego, the end of Don Quixote.

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[edit] Pastoral literature in English

A work can contain many pastoral elements mixed with other genres. Sir Philip Sidney's Arcadia, though taking place among shepherds in Arcadia, features the royal family, who have retired to the countryside for peace, and centers on the romances of princes and princesses. The fourth act of Shakespeare's The Winter's Tale features a pastoral setting, but the focus is on the apparent shepherdess, Perdita, who is actually a foundling and a princess, and the setting is intruded on by her princely lover Florizel, and by his disapproving father the king. Sir Calidore, the Knight of Courtesy in Edmund Spenser's The Faerie Queen finds that the Blatant Beast is unknown among the shepherds, but he himself comes from outside, and the shepherdess Pastorella whom he loves is revealed at the end to be a foundling, the daughter of a knight and lady. Indeed, many foundlings in literature are taken up by the pure and simple folk of the pastoral, but are themselves of higher birth and from civilization, to which they return at the story's end. Similarly, the heroes and heroines of fairy tales written by the précieuses often appeared in pastoral settings, but these figures were royal or noble, and their simple setting does not cloud their innate nobility.[1] In modern fantasy works, the setting is often pastoral.[2]

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I believe there should be some mention here that even the Louvre (the museum that now houses this work) attributes this work to Titian.Shane.Bell (talk) 09:17, 17 March 2008 (UTC)