Talk:Parental leave
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I have added a table with parenting rights derived from the http://europa.eu.int/eures/index.jsp webpage. Although that page is written to be easy to read, I have not always been sure exactly what the rights were - so please correct me if I am wrong. Also please add the rights for your country. Hjb26
I'm working on adding paternity leave information from the International Labour Organization site at http://www.ilo.org/public/english/protection/condtrav/family/reconcilwf/specialleave.htm. As a UN-related group, its figures are reliable, and the page is copyrighted 2006 so is probably reasonable up to date. Llachglin 00:08, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
The ILO has information for paternity leave for the following countries that conflicts with the existing information:
New Zealand: 2 weeks unpaid paternity leave
France: 2 paid weeks paternity leave
Italy: 2 weeks paid (but doesn't mention the 80% paid additional weeks)
Norway: 2 weeks unpaid paternity leave + four weeks paid parental leave reserved for the father
Sweden: 10 days paid paternity leave + 2 months paid parental leave reserved for the father
I'm leaving the non-ILO information for these 5 countries for now, but I thought the discrepancies should be recorded so somebody can double check later. Note that for all the paternity leave that is paid, it's unclear what portion of normal income is paid for each country according to the ILO.
Where the ILO information does not conflict, it has been added. Llachglin 00:31, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
I have added the ILO information for New Zealand and France where I believe it was more up to date or complete than the information in the table. Hjb26
1. The description of Bulgaria rules in text and in table differs seriously. What is true?
2. Laws of Russia allows to transfer maternal leave to father or to grandparent. How should it be mentioned in table? Unpaid (m/p)aternal leave in Russia is 3yrs since cnildbirth.213.148.27.40 18:51, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
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Parental leave systems can't be labelled "generous". For the vast majority of the population they are paid through the beneficiary's own taxes. Hence it is just a redistribution of income (and a mandatory one at that) inside a person's life. Generosity implies that someone else is paying (and pating voluntarily, as in giving). Parental leave is not more generous than highways, it is a mutually agreed system that advances some (perceived or real) common goods. 213.238.217.99 16:54, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- It would not be generosity if people were receiving a payment equal to their contribution, but in this case, not everyone is a parent and not everyone has the same number of children. Hence, those who have less kids that their national average can be labelled as "generous" to offer any parental leave, and the better the offer, the more generous the policy. When a government is democratically elected, you can assume that a society has made the decision of being generous to its members who decide to have children. --Mozza 21:10, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I have a question, does the information in the article reflect legally mandated paid leave or customary? Because its my understanding that US employers can offer paid parental leave as part of their benefits compensation along with the usual health insurance. 204.13.78.154 18:54, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- It's legal information referring to "rights". Any employer can offer what he wants - Ferrari as signing bonuses, stock options, 1 year of parental leave - so it would be impossible to track and not an indication of what citizens are entitled to. --Mozza 18:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Brazil: I made some alterations. The "1 day 100% paid (Article 473, section III, of Labor Laws)" doesn't apply anymore, because Brazilian Constitution of 1988 is newer.
[edit] This article floored me.
This article is so skewed, possibly even beating the Iraq War one. "Parental" leave is not a 'right' as listed in the blanket-statement beginning. It is true that certain countries recognize it as such, but certainly not the US. Not to mention the majority of countries. And why is the whole fact that maternity leave is far more common completely untouched. Most refer to the entire concept as 'Maternity Leave.' I'm not saying that the article should be renamed, but it should be mentioned.
How about the fact that small businesses discriminate against hiring women of child-bearing age due to the fear that they would have to pay for months without work.
How about the hardship it causes to those small businesses? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.118.111.53 (talk) 07:05, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. There should be some representation of positions critical of parental leave, (eg, some groups may consider child-raising to be the responsibility of the parent, not the workplace/state; and/or that the "liability" of having to devote time to it comes about as a result of a parents rational choice to do so) and possibly of the potential for abuse by persons who have multiple children spaced apart to receive the maximum amount of parental benefits. 216.36.186.2 (talk) 18:25, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
