Talk:Parahuman
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[edit] Redundancy
Isn't the text "and other species" redundant? A chimera already consists of differents species...
- Human individuals can, rarely, be chimeras of two merged embryos.--Nectarflowed (talk) 23:37, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Expansion
Whew! Just greatly expanded this piece; please forgive my noobishness. I'm leery about the definition at the beginning, because (a) humans are animals (see the distinction under human-animal hybrid), and (b) a chimera could contain only "animal" species such as squirrel and T.rex, or even just one species; black mouse cells + white mouse cells = zebra-striped mouse. How about getting into how they're created... well, Chimera explains the concept better. Also, it's messy not to distinguish between a chimera (two separate populations of cells, unlikely to survive if they're from different species) and a "gengineered" creature (containing modified genes). Really ought to make that distinction clearer; parahumans could technically be either type, and the chimera type seems much less plausible to me. --Kris Schnee 23:52, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] A random quote
"All it required was a cocktail of dangerous, experimental surgery and a willingness to ignore the unnecessary suffering of perfectly innocent beings!" -Red Mage, "8-Bit Theatre," [1] 8)
[edit] Citation tags
I just added a few citation needed tags. One was for one of those "some so-and-sos think X" claims that sneak into every Wikipedia article, but should really be attributed to someone, and the rest were just because having a reference to more information on the subject or to relevant source documents would make for a much stronger article. -Seth Mahoney 19:26, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- I just added a reference to the WTA's position on germline genetic modification. [2] While not specifically dealing with transgenic DNA, support for this kind of modification can be inferred from the lack of exclusion and the general nature of the statement. Also, since this article covers not only transgenic modifications but general modifications resulting in a creature either less or more than human, this reference seems to cover the topic nicely.EthanL (talk) 11:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Animal transplant
http://www.reason.com/rb/rb112404.shtml
Apparently, the body replaces any cells that don't 'fit in' and so the 'parahuman' described in the last paragraph of the lead won't stay such for long. Is this correct? --Joffeloff 17:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- You mean "chimeras," right? Surprisingly, there's been some success in creating cross-species chimeras according to Chimera (genetics), and some humans are even born as chimeras and don't normally even know it. Realistically I would expect gengineering to be more likely to produce a parahuman, but it could be done with chimerization depending on the goal. --Kris Schnee
Where does the word "parahuman" come from? The name of this Wikipedia article supposedly comes from National Geographic article but after checking it it doesn't actually contain the word "parahuman" at all. I propose merging this content with the chimera article. --Anonymous —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.163.236.11 (talk) 08:38, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] George Bush removal
I think I see what the most recent revision means; it looks like one speech by Bush came to infest the whole article, when it really deserves just one paragraph. Deleting all references to that is overkill, though, since it was a speech by the President explicitly taking a stand on parahumans and serving as an example of why the otherwise vague "some people" oppose them. --Kris Schnee 11:23, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hm, George Bush is now not mentioned at all in the article. Could someone please give me a link to that "one speech by george bush about parahumans"? Thank you. Ran4 02:22, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Picture
Come to think of it, is there another suitable picture out there? The existing one seems meant to be disturbing. --Kris Schnee 11:38, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- This image keeps being removed from the Parahuman and Transhumanism articles by an anonymous user simply because he or she finds it “offensive”. However, one Wikipedia administrator has confirmed that this wasn't a legitimate reason in light of the fact that it isn't t isn't pornographic, scatological or extremely violent in nature. Furthermore, this image is not meant to be disturbing as the caption clearly explains. For more background, read the information provided by the creator of the image (and the sculpture it depicts) on the Image:The Young Family.jpg page. --Loremaster 11:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Objection
The attribution to this subject is too calm and emotionless. Thinking of partly human creatures is sick, it's disgusting, I don't get how you can talk about it so indifferently! -- 217.132.130.167
- Anonymous user 217.132.130.167, your personal views of parahumans has no place in the the Parahuman article or it's talk page. Like all Wikipedia articles, the Parahuman article must be and is a neutral and objective entry in an encyclopedia. Our personal views, whether they be positive or negative, are irrelevant and inappropriate. --Loremaster 23:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Technically such hybrids already exist"
The author of the article it seems does not know what hybrid is. Replacing body parts with those from another species or artificially created does not make a person hybrid.--Dojarca 23:58, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Rationale
The article section Rationale is incoherent. Please cite some reliable published sources that discuss possible rationales for creating "parahumans". --JWSchmidt (talk) 14:28, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Human-animal hybrids for scientific research
The whole section "Human-animal hybrids for scientific research" smells distinctly of plagiarism. If it isn't I apologize, but it has a very journalistic tone and it would be helpful to check. The section itself might be a bit too long and specific, but it's an interesting point that should be retained in some form.
Wellspring (talk) 13:28, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
