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For an August 2004 deletion debate over this page see: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Overwatch

To the author, Weatherman: I realize that this article is new, and Wikipedia needs articles on military topics. See the VfD debate, though: If this is a commonly used military term, we need some evidence of that. Also, the information, if it cannot be expanded, might well be better on a List of military terms article. We no doubt need military information, but at present this is a bit too brief and unexplained. Geogre 13:52, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

This page was placed on VfD: Discussion resulted in decision to RETAIN: A military term with difficult-to-establish usage. I wrote a note on the article's discussion tab asking the author to expand or consider another manner of providing the information to Wikipedia. Geogre 13:57, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

   * Keep. Very common military concept used in any discussion of modern tactics of "fire and maneuver". Current content is a mere definition (and not completely right). I'll try to fix it later. Rossami 15:23, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
         o Comment: That's all I could ask for, Rossami. I sure don't mind being proven wrong, if it means we get good articles on military topics that we've been lacking. Geogre 17:30, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
   * Keep. As above. DJ Clayworth 18:12, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
   * Keep. Even if Rossami does not have time to expand, it is a valuable entry and someone with extensive military knowledge could add great contribution to it (i.e. common usage, historical usage, examples, etc.) Skyler 21:14, Aug 11, 2004 (UTC)
   * Keep Important military concept, merits expansion, not deletion. -FZ 15:42, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

What about the term 'bounding overwatch' , where the unit is split into two or more subunits and one moves under cover of the others?

In German the words "over watch" translate into "Uber Uhr." It is a word which lends itself to a connotation of superiority, as in "taking the high ground and conducting overwatch duty."

It also sounds like the pretext of a justification for continued military presence in Iraq and the presumption that American military might is required to maintain Iraqi government control. Some people might look at this as "propping up a puppet government." While the term "puppet government" doesn't get much play on American news media, it is widely used in Iraq to describe their current government. Perhaps the political solution requires that this perception is changed. It's difficult to see how that will happen while American military forces conduct "overwatch duty."

Steve Moyer http://stevemoyer.us

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.228.50.254 (talk) 18:03, 10 September 2007 (UTC)