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[edit] levente AT mit.edu

ha? I wrote the article for Metal-Archives. I decided to put it here too. Well, it's back. There is no copyright violation, as the article is not copyrighted. I as the author release the article to the public domain, and the webmasters of metal-archives.com agree with this decision. Feel free to contact them - emails available on the site. levente AT mit.edu

[edit] Deletion of whole sections

If you feel you have to delete whole parts of the article, it would be appropriate to state your reasons here. Otherwise this might be seen as a form of vandalism. --84.184.149.207 11:05, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Beavis & Butthead

Come on, no mention of them savaging "Hello From the Gutter"? That's the only way 90% of people ever heard of this band. "Huh Huh...that skull should fly away to a video that's cool....huh huh"

[edit] Major Cleanup

Although I am a die hard lifelong 'Kill fan, I drasticaly lessened the POV in this article(such as "this is their best alum" type stuff). I tired to take a more factual stance in the article as well. I also removed lots of unessecary stuff like "(name forgotten over time)" and cleaned up run on sentences, ect. I also added the infobox and pics.

Most of the later album descriptions after W.F.O. still say somthing to the effect of "combining the new overkill sound with their classic sound" ect. But I'll leave that argument to someone else, As I know little about the bands albums after F.T.U.A.B.

There are lots of unverified facts here, such as Dan Spitz being a member? A lot of that stuff needs sources and citations if it's to be included...

I'm also in the process of giving each album a page(if there isn't one already) and uploading all the covers - can't believe they arent up! Skeletor2112 09:26, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

- See also Category:Overkill albums --Yendor1958 12:47, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blitz's "Stroke"

I talked to Blitz after a show in Edmonton, and he said that what he had wasn't really a "stroke", per se. Maybe it makes sense to refer to it as a stroke coloquially, since it gets the point across to the layman, but I forget exactly what Blitz called what he had. If someone could look into this and update this page, I'd be grateful.

Whilst looking for info on the official numbering of the albums, it appears that Blitz himself refers to it as a stroke, albeit a minor one, in all his interviews. So I think you're alright on this. cp

[edit] Numbering of albums to make Killbox 13

Just a general query, I don't wish to be a pedant because your article is otherwise top notch, but isn't Coverkill the 11th album making Bloodletting the 12th and Killbox 13 the 13th rather than Overkill EP being 1st? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.238.233.2 (talk • contribs) .

I thought the numbering was based on albums of original material, not cover & live ones, but I could be wrong. If you know of an interview or any reference that mentions the albums counted, please feel free to add/change the info. Skeletor2112 08:59, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

No, you are dead on the head of the nail, Skeletor. From the horse's mouth, "Well, it is the thirteenth, but it’s only really the thirteenth for people who followed the band. There was an EP called “Overkill” back in ’84..." http://www.themetalweb.com/overkillinterview

[edit] Year of Extended Versions

Allmusic has Extended Versions with a release date of 2002, yet it's in this discography as released in 2004. I didn't want to change it, as I've known AMG to be wrong. --Joelmills 02:03, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Logo

Did the guys ever officially confirm that their logo (at least the "O" in the logo) is based upon the Iron Maiden logo? I don't think this is pure coincidence.--80.133.223.142 16:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Overkill Sales

I'm wondering, how many albums have Overkill sold worldwide? And how many albums have Overkill sold for each album?{{subst:image source|Image:1401.jpg)) Betacommand ^{(talk • contribs • Bot)} 00:34, 25 May 2007 (UTC) {{missing rationale|Image:1401.jpg

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Hello From The Gutter- The Best of Overkill.JPG

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:OverkillTheYearsOfDecay.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Overkill - Unholy.JPG

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[edit] Fair use criteria

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[edit] Images, Cleaning-Up Article

I've re-uploaded the logo and a shot of the band. Someone needs to come in and fix this article as much as possible! --LuvataciousSkull 16:31, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 15 studios should be 14?

There are only 14 studio albums? why does it say 15?....unless I don't know that percific one, I got all their albums and their is only 14. METALFREAK04 12:44, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Overkill-logo.png

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[edit] This is aimed towards the idiot who undid my edit on them being groove metal

My citations include Decibel Magazine, a major heavy metal magazine. To the last dickhead that undid my post, SUCK FUCKING DICK. What is wrong with you? Are you a fucking moron? Did you not read the edits before you just changed them? Fucking tool. 70.157.67.202 (talk) 09:32, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Please mind your language and be civil. Using that kind of language leads to blocking. I don't really care about the issue, you may be right or wrong, but being civil is a part of wikipedia. I agree that whoever removed your post should not have done so (unless it was very offensive). Anyways, after reading this I thought to myself that I've never heard anything by Overkill that could even be remotely described as groove metal, but then I haven't listened to everything by them, so they may have made a groove metal album or something at some point and maybe that's what you're referring to. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 18:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Comma and Break wars are fucking lame

Nobody really gives a damn which you use, please come to a consensus and stop bickering over asinine stuff, because edit wars piss me off. Thanks. DarrelClemmons (talk) 11:01, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Lol, well said. Well as long as both are accepted there will be no end to the wars. One genre delimiter must be decided on to stop the wars. I don't like taking part in them either. Messy. But I agree. If people keep edit warring on here we'll take a vote or something and reach a consensus. That was what was decided at WP:METAL and that is the OFFICIAL consensus. A vote or talk between the warrers until a conclusion is reached. I must note, though, that the consensus for any metal band article that has a high number of genres (such as this page) has generally been to use line breaks as it looks a lot less fucked up. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 18:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Consensus on genre delimiters

Well, some sock IP user reverted me. I don't wanna revert again. Let's just take a vote and talk this out until consensus is reached as this seems to be a big issue for some reason. I vote line breaks just because the length of the list of genres there, which I think is a pretty good reason. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 20:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

What's the point in a vote? It doesn't matter if it's a comma or a line break (see Template:Infobox_musical_artist#Genre) so why not just leave it? --JD554 (talk) 20:33, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

To answer your question, it would be great to leave it, but people will war over it so it was decided at WP:METAL that consensus would be gathered on a page with problems for one genre delimiter or the other. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 16:35, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Read WP:VOTE. The example shown in the template guideline clearly shows a comma. And matching the example shown in a guideline is a good faith edit. Reverting because of personal preference is a bad faith edit and simple trolling. Whatever bridge you briefly retired under, is waiting for your return. 83.231.130.42 (talk) 21:31, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

And you are lying. The template guideline shows both a comma break and line break being used. Don't call me a troll, I'm an editor of over a year who's made a lot of good contributions. You, however, are obviously a sock, so cut it out. I do not revert because of personal preference. I usually make sure that pages that have had one genre delimiter for a long time stay the same, no matter what genre delimiter they use. I've reverted people who have changed genre delimiters to line breaks on pages that have had comma breaks for a long time. I just wanna keep the peace. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 16:35, 11 June 2008 (UTC)