Talk:Outlaws Motorcycle Club

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From Article: "Each chapter has a clubhouse. These clubhouses are used for "church meetings," parties, and privacy. They are usually secured by concrete walls, steel doors, razor wire, guard dogs, and video surveillance."

Is there proof of this? I'm not sure that every chapter has a clubhouse, and I doubt whether many of them would be secured to the extent that this makes it out to be. 01/30/2006

This should be corrected. 03/24/2006

"The Outlaws collect information on their rivalries with other clubs. They primarily collect newspaper clippings regarding incidents with other clubs. On occasion, though, an Outlaws member will bribe a law enforcement officer to obtain information on the location of a rival club's members. Outlaws also travel, at the club's direction, to the funerals of fellow bikers."

What??? These seem like rumors with NO verifiable facts... I suggest that this entire section be removed, or backed up with sources. 03/24/2006

Contents 1 SS tattoo's 2 Recent incidents entry 3 Biggest Club? 4 Gang vs. Club 5 Unreferenced Material 6 Unsolved Murder of John "Burrito" Klimes 7 Wikify 8 Similar

[edit] SS tattoo's

I question the statment that relates SS tatoo's to proof of a members violent history....the same thing was said of the Hells Angels, who also used the SS( "Filthy Few" in HAMC lexicon) symbol. The allegation that these tatoo's denoted certain criminal acts (murder etc.) in the HAMC has been widely discredited 195.7.34.195 10:03, 22 February 2006 (UTC) T.J. McKenzie It is used as a brand perse for the murder of a rival of any kind. I can assert that.

[edit] Recent incidents entry

I added that in there because everything else in the article, as far as I can tell, is just rumor and speculation. Since that incident was so recent I knew I could put the link up to the story to verify it. Scoop 20:46, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Biggest Club?

This article states that the Outlaws MC is now the biggest outlaw biker club, but cites no proof. The Hells Angels would disagree.

[edit] Gang vs. Club

I reverted the change in category from Motorcycle Club to Motorcycle Gang. The Outlaws are, in fact, a motorcycle club. The term motorcycle gang has no concensus definition. Mmoyer 02:38, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unreferenced Material

I removed gobs of unreferenced material from this article and have begun searches for refs to support some of the less outlandish claims. Mmoyer 03:06, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unsolved Murder of John "Burrito" Klimes

Should a section also be included over the murder of Klimes? He was very prominent in the Lyons, Il chapter, and his murder has never been solved, though there is much specualtion. I remember 100's of bikers driving down 47th street in Brookfield, IL in 1981, when I was 10 years old. Nathraq 17:09, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikify

Anyone mind if I wikify the history section as per tag? Julia Rossi (talk) 08:49, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Similar

It is believed that the Pagans have similar restrictions on membership to those of the Hells Angels. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.157.255 (talk) 16:17, 21 January 2008 (UTC)