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Template:Otheruses1 is permanently protected from editing, as it is a heavily used or visible template.

Substantial changes should be proposed here, and made by administrators if the proposal is uncontroversial, or has been discussed and is supported by consensus. Use {{editprotected}} to attract the attention of an administrator in such cases.
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[edit] Otheruses templates

To discuss these templates as a whole, please see Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation If you wish to discuss general wordings, rather than the wording or formatting of this specific template, don't post here, or else what you say will probably go unnoticed.

For a summary page on how to use these templates, see Wikipedia:Otheruses templates (example usage).

[edit] Generic

For example, {{dablink|For other senses of this term, see [[etc...]]}}. This template is adaptable, but fails to standardize hatnotes.
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(Similar to Dablink, but used for messages that wouldn't make sense on mirrors of Wikipedia, such as a link in the main article namespace that links to one in the Wikipedia namespace. See Wikipedia:Avoid self-references for more details.)

[edit] Otheruses

{{About}} is the main template for giving other uses; it redirects to {{otheruses4}}.

  • {{otheruses4|USE1}} (disambiguous):
  • {{otheruses4|USE1|USE2}}:
  • {{otheruses4|USE1|USE2|PAGE2}}:
  • {{About||USE2|PAGE2|USE3|PAGE3|USE4|PAGE4|USE5|PAGE5}} (alias and empty first param):
  • {{otheruses4|USE1|USE2|PAGE2|USE3|PAGE3|USE4|PAGE4|USE5|PAGE5}} (fully specified):

[edit] Variations

There are also variations of {{about}}. These serve the same purpose, and are marginally easier to use for each individual purpose, but overall, it is complicated to have so many different templates; it could be argued that the time saved using them is lost as other editors have to familiarise themselves with them.

All of these templates are special cases of {{about}}.

  • {{otheruses}}:

Note: {{about}} will produce the same result.

  • {{otheruses1|USE}}:

Note: {{about|USE}} will produce the same result.

  • {{otheruses2|PAGE}}:

Note: this simply adds "(disambiguation)" to what you input as PAGE.

Note: {{about|||PAGE}} will produce the same result - note the two empty parameters.

  • {{otheruses5}}:

Note: this is for when there is both a singular and plural disambiguation page; it only works when the plural is formed simply by adding "s" at the end.

  • {{otheruses6|PAGE1|PAGE2}}:

Note: this is for when there are two disambiguation pages, such as noun and adjective, or singular and irregular plural. There are only two parameters and at least one is required.
Note: this cannot be recreated with {{about}} - only with {{dablink}} or {{for}}.

  • {{This|USE|PAGE}}:

Note: {{about|USE||PAGE}} will produce the same result - note the empty parameter.

[edit] For (other topic)

{{for}} (and {{for2}}) can be used instead of {{about}} to not include the first part - "This article is about USE". However, this can also simply be achieved with an empty first parameter in {{about}}.
For example, {{For|OTHER TOPIC|PAGE}} becomes {{About||OTHER TOPIC|PAGE}}.

  • {{For}} (disambiguous):
  • {{For|OTHER TOPIC}} (disambiguous):
  • {{For|OTHER TOPIC|PAGE}}:
  • {{For|OTHER TOPIC|PAGE1|PAGE2}}:
  • {{For2|OTHER TOPIC|CUSTOM TEXT}}:

[edit] Other people

  • {{otherpersons}} (disambiguous):
  • {{otherpersons|USE}} (disambiguous):
  • {{otherpersons|USE|PAGE}}:
  • {{otherpeople2|PAGE}}:
  • {{otherpeople3|USE1|USE2}}:
  • {{otherpeople4|USE1|USE2|PAGE}}:

[edit] Other places

[edit] Otherhurricaneuses

For articles on storms.
  • {{otherhurricaneuses}} (disambiguous):
  • {{otherhurricaneuses|DISAMBIG}}:
  • {{otherhurricaneuses|DISAMBIG|THIS}}:
  • {{otherhurricaneuses3|USE1|USE2|MAIN}}:

[edit] Otherusesof (topic)

  • {{otherusesof}} (disambiguous):
  • {{otherusesof|TOPIC}}:
  • {{otherusesof|TOPIC|PAGE}}:

[edit] Redirect

  • {{Redirectstohere|REDIRECT notice}} (To Document dependent link[s], Template also has a hidden mode, (Set "|hide=true") which enables it to document a section title is a redirect page target section, and so should not be changed.); Some examples:
    REDIRECT redirects here.,
    REDIRECT, Another name and A Foreign name all redirect to here.
    — with a little care, bolding the titled redirects can substitute for awkward phrases involving multiple name forms of the main article title; particularly those of the "also known as varieties"...
    Gustavus II AdolfGustav Adolphus II and Gustavus Vasa II of Sweden all redirect to here.

  • {{Redirect|REDIRECT}} (disambiguous):
  • {{Redirect|REDIRECT||PAGE}}:
  • {{Redirect|REDIRECT|USE|PAGE}}:
  • {{Redirect2|REDIRECT1|REDIRECT2}} (disambiguous):
  • {{Redirect3|REDIRECT|TEXT}}:
  • {{Redirect4|REDIRECT1|REDIRECT2}} (disambiguous):
  • {{Redirect6|REDIRECT|USE1|PAGE1|USE2|PAGE2}}:
  • {{Redirect6|REDIRECT|USE1|PAGE1||}}

[edit] "Not to be confused with"...

[edit] Notes

Do not use subst: with these templates, as that will prevent:

  1. propagating changes as the template is modified; and
  2. the What links here (WLH) listing.


Please do not edit these templates unless you know what you are doing

These templates may be used in thousands of articles, and changing the syntax could therefore break thousands of articles. If you wish to edit a disambiguation template first ask yourself:

  1. Is there already another template that will do this job? We have lots of disambiguation templates already, see Category:Disambiguation and redirection templates.
  2. Do I really need a template for this? Will it ever get used on any other articles, or should I just use {{dablink}} instead?
  3. Do I know what will happen if I change the parameters around? Will it break existing uses of the template, and if so, can I fix them all?
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[edit] Discussion

For discussion on an old, similar template that now redirects here, see Template talk:Otherusesabout. —Caesura(t) 10:03, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Why "uses"??

Why other "uses", rather than other senses of the term? When people read "other uses", they can easily think it means other uses of the thing the article is about. What are some other uses for an M16 rifle? Etc. Michael Hardy 00:19, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Weirdness

This template displays very weirdly on this page, and I'm not sure why. It seems to display correctly in articles, though, which is all that's important. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 04:15, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I did deliberately put that on the main template page, Kross, so that people wouldn't freak out when they saw it and rollback or something. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 23:54, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

This template should be merged with {{This}} using ParserFunctions, as they output the same thing. So, for instance:

Omegatron 03:03, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{otheruses1}} errors (???)

I just tried to use the otheruses1 template on the page Friendship, and found that it did not function as described on WP:TEMP. I then tried to view its source, and was presented with the source for {{otheruses4}}. Something appears to be wrong. -- Boracay Bill 23:23, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I can see no evidence of your trial. Perhaps you only did it in preview, such that you are the only one who could see the problem - that's good for the encyclopedia (in that the text of the page remained functional), but bad for troubleshooting.
Perhaps you can copy the relevant text here and try here so that we can see that "it did not function as described" for ourselves?
Perhaps you confused curly braces with square brackets due to a problem with your left shift key, as you did in this edit.
{{otheruses1}} works as described at Wikipedia:Template messages/General, not WP:TEMP.
The source for {{otheruses1}} here does indicate that {{otheruses1}} transcludes {{otheruses4}} with parameter 1 passed through, parameters 2 and 3 discarded, and parameter 4 set to "{{PAGENAME}} (disambiguation)".
  — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 17:33, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Jeff. Thanks for reminding me about this on my talk page -- I had forgotten about this and had neglected to add this page to my watchlist. I went back and redid my attempt to use the otheruses template in the Friendship article and had no problem. I no doubt misunderstood something the first time around and caused myself problems. You no doubt correctly surmised that I saw whatever problem I had last time when previewing the page, so I never saved it, and left no tracks for you to look at. Looks like a fumble on my part. -- Boracay Bill 02:34, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template documentation

{{editprotected}} This template should have documentation consistent with {{Interwiki doc page pattern}} and {{Sample}}.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 02:38, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Moved to doc subpage. CMummert · talk 15:27, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request to add (the existing) instructions to this template

{{editprotected}} I would like to request the general instructions be added to this template, using the following 3 lines at the bottom (insert the following as it is displayed/rendered, not as the internal code appears):

<noinclude>
{{Otheruses_templates}}
</noinclude>

Either that, or state that the instructions are on this talk page. Without one of these, it becomes difficult to figure out how to use this template and others similar to it. The template itself is silent on this, and it should not be.

I can never remember which version of For, For1 and all the others that are available so that I can determine easily what I want to use in any specific instance; including the existing instructions for using it will help. I'm sure I'm not the only one who isn't sure exactly how to use these, and I had to spend considerable time finding the template containing the instructions, and that's given the fact I knew that the instruction template was there. I don't think it makes sense to exclude the instructions from the template (which is where it should be) or, at least, that the template should state the instructions are here, as at least "a minimum standard of decency." Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 20:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

This template's documentation is editable at Template:Otheruses1/doc. Cheers. --MZMcBride 22:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TfD notice

I've nominated the Otheruses templates for discussion on Wikipedia:Templates for deletion. --JB Adder | Talk 14:02, 8 July 2007 (UTC)