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Something cannot be 'scientific fact' if there is 'no direct evidence' ;) Terrafire 17:47, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Notable Oswestrians 2 Welsh name 3 Boosterism 4 Haute Couture Network 5 Population

[edit] Notable Oswestrians

For the purposes of this section of the article, 'notable' means someone who has a Wikipedia article, e.g. if a link to that person is red rather than blue they will be removed. Terrafire 14:27, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welsh name

Skinmeister has removed the Welsh version of the town's name from the opening paragraph and the Infobox. This is mean to be a WP:NPOV encyclopaedia, using pejorative language like "Having it's foreign name in the History section is quite enough" and "What they call it is irrelevant" is hardly NPOV. Oswestry is close to the border, many street names are Welsh, many residents speak Welsh. their is a Welsh chapel there. It seems that Oswestry fulfils the requirement to have the alternative name listed in the standard formats (e.g. Template:Infobox UK place. If anyone has a good reason why the Welsh name should be excluded from the article (other than just not liking the Welsh), then please make the case here. DrFrench 16:39, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

How about because it's not in Wales? It's in England, where the only official language is English. And whether my comments are POV or not is irrelevant, as they were in my edit summary and not in the article itself. As such you can not use them as a reason to revert. Skinmeister 10:00, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

In favour of noting the Welsh name please note:

• Having been born next to the Welsh Presbyterian Church (one of several) and
• having learnt Welsh in the town in the nineteen sixties as a child
• and knowing that my father's business worked every Wednesday, Market day, in Welsh as did most of the town
• and the Ordnance Survey http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=330000.103394913&Y=330000.862073056&width=700&height=400&gride=328967.103394913&gridn=329377.862073056&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=freegaz&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&keepicon=true&zm=0&scale=25000&right.x=714&right.y=215

puts it on their maps.
Is this last item not reason enough in itself? Cosnahang 15:51, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Consensus seems to be to include it, so back it goes DrFrench 23:26, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Two against one is not consensus, your POV edits have been reverted. 88.106.254.34 16:20, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

And restored. There's plenty of historical and cultural contect to justify it's inclusion. The only dissenter has used pejorative terms such as 'foreign' which demonstrates POV pushing. DrFrench 20:38, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Boosterism

For all its charms, Oswestry is hardly New York, so adding headings declaring it to be the "3rd largest town in Shropshire" merely emphasise is relative lack of importance, and smacks of boosterism. There's too many headings breaking up what would otherwise be a very concise (and interesting) article. Famousdog 13:19, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Haute Couture Network

What is the relevance of this site to Oswestry? I'm sick of removing links to it. Famousdog 13:58, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Population

The article states that Oswestry's population is 17,181, but the citation provided shows it as 16,660 at the 2001 census and a calculation of 17,161 in 2008 - neither of which matches the figure given. So, I am revising the figure to the 2001 census figure unless anyone else can provide a more up to date accurate figure. Kingbumpkin (talk) 14:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC)