Talk:Order of the Holy Sepulchre

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There is no record or suggestion in the order's documentation that enoblement at the tomb was regarded by the Church as nothing more than a "souvenir" which was contingent upon financial support of the Holy Sepulchre. This statement insults the many pilgrims of virtue who were admitted into the confraternity for centuries before it was elevated to the status of an order.

Does this actually have anything to do with the First Crusade? I think it should be clearer that there was no chivalric order in 1099 and attempts to connect it that far back are wishful thinking. Adam Bishop (talk) 06:18, 23 March 2008 (UTC)