Talk:Ophiussa
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[edit] Authors...
I would suggest that the author of this article replace a phrase such as "most authors", which is a bit vague for an encyclopedic article, with something such as "Authors A and B say that/believe that..." I am saying this as a reader. It would be helpful to me and to others. "Most authors" borders on unverifiable. Babel2675 10:20, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The Dragon and Porto
Just a quick note: the identification of the dragon with Porto is extremely recent and mainly due to the decay in use of the full Portuguese coat-of-arms. In reality the dragon is the crest (and sometimes the supporter) of the Arms of Portugal since the Middle Ages. The association with Porto is because Futebol Clube do Porto - and maybe others - use as a symbol the Arms of Portugal quartered with the Arms of the city of Porto. The dragon is there not because of a specific association with Porto,but because it's part of the unquartered Arms of Portugal as well. As for the dragon itself, may I remind here that the strongest historiographic association can be seen in the Arms of the city of Coimbra and has roots in a legend that also gave birth to the Galician proposal of a banner in the XVII century: that the dragon is the symbol of the Suevii (Swebians?). The legend itself is probably apocriphal, but can also be a remnent of an older tradition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.212.29.187 (talk • contribs)
- My friend, feel free to include your remarks, in a proper encyclopedic tone, in the article's section regarding Dragons. Cheers! The Ogre 15:03, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
The dragon sounds to my more like: a) a reference to the Draganes, b) a reference to the Celts (remember Boorman's Excalibur?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.196.112.127 (talk) 14:14, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Dragon was in the Coat of arms of the Kings of Portugal after the final of the Medieval Age. In true was the Allad Serpent or "Serpe Real "Alada"", and in Yellow, corrupted on the Green Dragon in modern times - by the way - simbol of Coimbra(maybe a Name connected to the ancient People(Serpent) of Southern Portugal that came probably for North: "Conii" Conninbriga(even the Place was Aeminium) - "Coni" more "Briga" - "briga" a Pre-celtic or celtic name for a godess, a place or a montain, spread for all weast of Iberia.
It was offer to city of Porto(Oporto) because the support of his People to liberal wars and to liberal Leaders in XIX Century. It´s modern in Oporto. Of course we have the ancient tradition of the Suevi Dragon in Galicia(Spain and Portugal). But this is another issue. Like the Celtic Dragon: a "bridge" to the Galaics who had some Celtic blood too(Celtic Dragon), like original blood of their iberian ancesters.
OPHIUSSA and the Previous Oestreminium Peoples were in old Traditions connected to all West, but the Tradition is more strong in Lisbon´s Peninsula, like the Sephes or Sepes (Sefes) Peoples(Serpents?) that specialists put Portguese Estremadura, the Cempsi People(Celtic or Pre-celtic in the same area) or Cyneties also in Algarve (Connii?). The connection of "Sefes" to "Dragani" it´s not proved. Dragani`s tradition support northern-setentrional Galician region or Asturian places(migration from the Portuguese South or from other europeans regions?)
Like the Megalithic Radical "CAR"- "Stone"(Authors Manuel J. Gandra and others) in Car-"enque", Car-nide ("Enque" "Circle" pre-historic word... of Stones like the "henge" in Britain, that receave migrations from Galicia and Portugal in Pre-History) - Carenque; Carnaxide; Carnide (Many Carnac terms - Lisbon Peninsula and French Britanny), Charneca (latim adaptado mas derivado no plano da semântica também) all in the same Region: LISBON-Estremadura Peninsula. Romans call Lusitania by "Luxitania" many times (God Lug ? and "Light"? in Latin-Lacio and also other different Indo-European languages but Pre-Indoeuropeans too?!).
"Carnacs" and Megalithic clues maybe were connected with outside "Luxor" and "Carnac". O-LISIS-PO ("oppidum" or "polis") connected with LYSSUS(or Lygurs) or LUCIS(Ancient two Names for river TAGUS in AVIENO´S "ORA MARTÍMA": City of Lysis or Lucis. Maybe the River give is name to Lusitânia too. (Manuel J. Gandra; Juan de Atienza etc.). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.22.213.87 (talk) 15:11, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
