Talk:Operation Enduring Freedom - Horn of Africa

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[edit] Split from CJTF-HOA

Just as it would make little sense to have "OEF" and "CENTCOM" on one page, I have split the mission (OEF-HOA) away from the command (CJTF-HOA). While they can be linked articles, I believe that the pages should be distinct. It was becoming problematic when I was reading such wrongful statements as "Operation Enduring Freedom - Horn of Africa (CJTF-HOA) is a unit of United States Central Command." OEF-HOA is not a unit. CJTF-HOA is a unit. --Petercorless 08:53, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recent category edits

OEF-HOA is not a "battle." It is an ongoing military operation. --Petercorless 07:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Heh. Already replied on your talk page. ;-) Kirill Lokshin 07:07, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Casualties

The only confirmed casualties that the US military admits to inflicting are the 8-10 killed in the AC-130 gunship in January 2007. There was a second gunship attack, which might also have a casualty figure associated with it. Others tried to inflate OEF-HOA casualties by conflating casualties caused in the Second Battle of Mogadishu and the Rise of the Islamic Courts Union (2006), or elsewise as part of the War in Somalia (2006–present). However, those other actions were not officially conducted as part of OEF-HOA, and those casualty figures should not be double-reported or conflated with the actions which were strictly a limited pair of AC-130 strikes by the U.S. --Petercorless 07:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sideshows: Action of March 18 2006 & Action of June 3 2007

There are two short articles on very minor naval operations Action of March 18 2006 and Action of June 3 2007 which could be merged into this one. Observations? ROGER TALK 06:46, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Jolly Rodger Pirate flag

Isn’t that a little silly, unless those Somali vessels were flying the Jolly Roger? Captain Jack Sparrow is not operating from Somalia as far as I know. Chwyatt 09:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why is the pirate flag here?

Unless there is evidence that 21st century Somali ‘pirates’ are flying 18th century English pirate flags, I cannot see a reason to add that flag. And if those 21st century Somali ‘pirates’ are not flying a flag, why add a flag that is nothing to do with them? There is no official pirate flag.

Further reasons not to have the ‘pirate flag’
The popular image of pirates, which the Jolly Roger represents, in the popular imagination, is nothing like the reality of pirates operating of the African coast in the 21st century. The only reason as some have said for having Jolly Roger is that it represents pirates. But modern piracy is a world apart from the popular myths or reality of 18th century piracy.
Further, two different pirate flags have appeared at different times, so there is no single common pirate flag. And no ‘official generic pirate flag’.
It has been said that Islamic terrorists don’t fly the flag of jihad. If that is the case, then that is a reason not to have the flag of jihad.
It simply isn’t encyclopaedic. Chwyatt (talk) 07:29, 11 April 2008 (UTC)