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1 Later Setlists
2 Subjectivity
3 About the drumming
4 Tearjerker
5 RHCP Info
6 Pea
7 Navarro
8 Underrated?
9 Navarro-vocals?
10 Tracklisting
11 Stretch and One Big Mob
12 Anthony photo
13 GA review
14 So-called...
15 ARIA number-one album box

[edit] Later Setlists

"Although the band has not played any songs from this album since Frusciante's return in 1998 (due to the change in guitar style), the album fared well on the charts." I actually saw them in concert in 1999 with John Frusciante and they played "Pea." It's just Flea (as opposed to the band), but it IS off the album in question.

[edit] Subjectivity

Their style regresses without the beauty of nostalgia on tracks such as "Walkabout"

This statement could be construed as subjective. A reasonable point about the subject of the article, but deceptively worded.

^ I agree, but not at all sure how i would go about changing it...

[edit] About the drumming

Many of the songs on One Hot Minute where not recorded by Chad Smith, so the statment about it being his "finest" may not be entirly applicable, that is unless since he wrote it it is still essentially his talent that is of importance, could someone more musically minded please offer a solotuion?

Where on earth did you hear that Chad did not record the drums on this album? I have never heard anything like ths and I know A LOT about the Chili Peppers. Egg Creations 18:06, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I simply confused the Purcussionists on the album with being session drummers. I didn't realise that "Purcussion" and "Druming" are two seperate concepts. I can assure you my face is red, and I retract my statment.

It's cool don't worry about it, Egg Creations 16:54, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Although a lot of drummers call themselves percussionists when they're not. --andreasegde 07:28, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tearjerker

Someone mentioned that 'Tearjerker' could be about Slovak. While listening to the song that could be a valid arguement, but if you read Kiedis' autobiography he mentions that the song is in fact about Cobain. (Egg Creations 18:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC))

not to mention the fact that slovak wasn't wearing a dress when kiedis met him and he didn't have whiskers on his chin. (just lines from the song)

[edit] RHCP Info

This article is about the One Hot Minute album but contains a lot of unnecessary information about the band and John Frusciante's temporary departure. I don't think it's relevant to this article so I've removed a lot of it. SJH 15:55, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but the article is not just about the album, it's also about the era. I think it would be fine if anyone might want to create pages on album eras (in the form of album era) I dunno, but that's just my opinion. -- ChunkyStyle (talk · contribs)

I think that the set and setting are what make some albums so great! It gives a better description and understanding of the album if you understand what was happening around it. -- AFACI (talk · contribs)

[edit] Pea

About Pea, I thought it might be worth mentioning that it had to be taken off the album in order for it to be sold at Wal-Mart. It would have been a bit foolish to actually edit the song because every other word would be cut out. If you're wondering where I got the info, Flea said it in an interview with what I believe was Bass Player magazine. SandwichHat 03:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree... I think it too should be added in. Should it be put under critical reception? Or possibly an "additional information" area? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.250.83 (talk) 01:15, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Navarro

Navarro was actually clean during the recording of One Hot Minute.Paralleluniverse 11:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Where did you hear THAT? -- ChunkyStyle (talk · contribs)

[edit] Underrated?

It is mentioned how the One Hot Minute has become discarded and overlooked. Would it be okay to add that many fans consider this album underrated? After reading various album reviews, it is clear that many people certainly feel this way.

Yeah i think this is their finest release, this is the album i constantly listen to unlike the rest. Either way, it was panned by both critics and fans so we have no proof to call it underated. However the fact that Navarro provided a unique sound and was at his best like Smith could prove a point.

The album was not critically panned at the time of it's release. That's what most people don't really understand. But to throw in some personal opinion, this is by far their best work. Paralleluniverse 19:53, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Navarro-vocals?

It says on here that Navarro played backing vocals, what songs were they on Speedboy Salesman 12:11, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tracklisting

Defunct Lies 22:58, 13 February 2007 (UTC)I'm making articles on the remaining tracks on the listing if that's okay with you guys.

Go for it! -- ChunkyStyle (talk · contribs)

[edit] Stretch and One Big Mob

For some bizarre reason, the article said that Stretch started with the same riff that One Big Mob ends with. Whomever wrote that in must be tone-deaf, or just not paying attention. I deleted it.

I was wondering about that one as well. Strech sounds totally different to One Big Mob, Also, who keeps changing the title from Strech to Strech You Out? 83.100.132.221 16:27, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

When the band was working on the album both tracks were intended to be one song titled One Big Mob/Stretch You Out. Notice how on the album One Big Mob faded out and into Walkabout. It was supposed to fade out into Stretch. The song was however released as Stretch. Jason1978 , 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Anthony photo

Someone continues to add a photo of Anthony with his flaming helmet from the 1992 Lollapalooza tour to the One Hot Minute page. I have taken it down a few times. The photo is NOT from the 1996 era. The Peppers never wore flaming helmets with Dave. Only time they did this was on the mentioned Lollapalooza tour and 1992 MTV music awards. Maybe the person who continues to place this picture on the page is mistaking it with the lightbulb helemets they wore at Woodstock with Dave. Jason1978 , 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Never wore the flaming helmets with Navarro? And yet here they are at the Reading Festival in 1994--with Dave Navarro--wearing them while playing the song "The Power of Equality": http://youtube.com/watch?v=3OGkoPDeGME

[edit] GA review

I've taken a look through the article (this is a GA review combined with a peer review essentially), and noticed the following issues:

CloudNine's addressed comments

*~~"to become uncomfortable". "with the band's success" should clarify things.~~

"One Hot Minute contained far darker, more suicidal and less sexual themes than previous records, integrating excessive use of heavy metal guitar riffs". I'm not the second part of the sentence follows from the first; perhaps try merging the first part of this sentence with the next. What kind of themes were explored?
~~"excessive" seems a little POV to me; it sounds as if it was a fact that the heavy metal guitar riffs negatively affected the album.~~
"Although One Hot Minute would eventually sell over five million copies, it was half of what Blood Sugar Sex Magik sold and in comparison became both a commercial and critical disappointment." could be rephrased as "One Hot Minute was a commercial disappointment; the band's previous album, Blood Sugar Sex Magik, sold twice as many copies as One Hot Minute." Perhaps work the critical reaction into the latter half of the second para?
"Mother's Milk would peak at #52 on the Billboard Top 200 becoming the band's first gold record certified by the RIAA." reads a little awkwardly: "would peak" doesn't sound right, and it feels like a run-on sentence to me.
~~"He began"; Keidis I assume?~~
"As the first show Navarro played with the Red Hot Chili Peppers, they played the first few songs in a metallic suit with large light bulbs fashioned as helmets". Should the first word be "At"? Also, what's the significance of performing in a metallic suit?
~~"Months went by, and little came from it". "it" being the months? (Should be "them" in that case.)~~
~~"recommence[d] visceral drug use". Both "recommenced" and "visceral" are a little obscure; why not "resumed his heavy drug use"?~~
~~"Kiedis confided within himself." To confide means to tell someone else something. "kept to himself" sounds better in this context.~~
"Flea contributed lyrics for the first time as Kiedis had become overwhelmed with his addiction and it hindered the creative output." Creative output of whom? I suggest rephrasing this, as it's a run-on sentence.
~~"the majority of" can usually be shortened to "most" or "most of".~~
"He had even written an entire song, which he both sung and played on the record called "Pea"." How about "Flea even wrote an entire song, "Pea", where he both sung and played [what? bass? It may not be clear to the average reader.].."
"It was a significant divergence from previous Chili Peppers' records, especially Blood Sugar Sex Magik which incorporated drier guitar progressions and funkier bass lines." Needs rephrasing; what's a dry guitar progression exactly?
~~"reestablished members"? In what way?~~
~~"Kiedis continued to get high" sounds a little informal; perhaps rephrase?~~
~~"for a culmination leg". "final leg" should suffice.~~
~~A general suggestion; why not move the tour prose to a separate article and summarise in the album article? The tours themselves are not really related to the album.~~
~~"record and produce it" would sound better as "its recording and production".~~
~~"confided location of his microphone". "microphone" should suffice here (should be "confined" anyway).~~
"Nonetheless, months went by without any touring, as One Hot Minute hadn't sold nearly as well as Blood Sugar Sex Magik." You may want to rephrase it; the contraction sounds awkward in the middle of the sentence.
~~"Half way through recovery, the band was asked to play Fuji Rock Festival in July 1997". "Half way through Kiedis' recovery, .."; otherwise it sounds as if the band is recovering.~~
~~"culminate". "finish" should suffice. (Perhaps check the article for uses of this term?)~~
~~"abstemious" seems a little obscure. You may want to add a wiktionary link or change it to a clearer term. Same with "apparition".~~

For the above reasons, I'm placing the article on hold. The hold will expire on 24 October. (Once these issues have been addressed, I'll promote the article) CloudNine 17:31, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Done, thanks! I'll await anything more you have. NSR77 ^T_C 20:28, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I believe you've addressed all the comments I've made, so I've passed this as a good article. CloudNine 18:54, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] So-called...

"My Friends" is apparently a "blatant attempt to hold on to the mainstream audience gained by "Under the Bridge"". Please bear in mind that in this review, Stephen Thomas Erelwine simultaneously cites "Transcening" to exemplify this view, even though it is blatantly not just a pop-ballad in the same vein as "My Friends", since it clearly transforms in the second half into a heavy grunge song. Loganator 01:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Well the article clearly states that the quote is from a review conducted by Stephen Thomas Erlewine and doesn't mislead the reader into thinking this is a common fact. The 'Critical reception' section exists to synthesize the numerous reviews of an album and boil it down into a few core sentences. Critics can have wildly different perceptions of any album, and are entitled to such as per their job description. NSR77 ^T_C 20:18, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ARIA number-one album box

This box may not be essential to the article, but I am adding these boxes to every ARIA number-one album article so that not just few and far between have them, and so that number-one albums can be linked chronologically. Therefore, I think that this box should be kept.--Classicrockfan42 (talk) 04:03, 1 June 2008 (UTC)