Talk:Once More, with Feeling (Buffy episode)

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[edit] Behind The Scene

I just read on a Buffy Magazine that on the UK Six Season DVD's there's a behind the scene of the musical by David Fury. So I've modified the page accordingly. But I'm not in the UK, and I'll wait for the Italian edition of the DVD's in August, so I can't check now, can anyone else? I also wonder if it's the same behind the scene that was on the official site some time ago. If so, it's a bit too short to summarize 40 hours of shooting. Lazarus Long 17:22 24 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Ok, time has passed, Italian DVD's are out, and I was able to buy them and check. It's much longer than that, so it's the right one. Lazarus Long 18:53, 28 Aug 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Horrible Page

This is just a very poor page. The entire theme of it sounds like it's written by a fan. It doesn't sound remotely encyclopedic.68.154.185.125 01:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

-Yeah 68.154.185.125, but that's kind of the point of Wiki. If it's really bugging you, fix it : ) Eventually between all of us we'll have put up a decent, and hopefully verisimilar page. I dissagree by the way, even though this page is a work in progress... but I am a huge Buffy fan, and therefore not impartial; which is why I've been reticent to contribute myself. Manuelcuribe (talk) February 2008

[edit] Plot Summary

I've gone ahead and reworked the plot summary to include the songs, but personally, at least, I still think it could be much better... first of all, not enough emphasis is put on the songs as it is, and secondly, the text quality sometimes doesn't seem quite... Wiki-level. It's also a bit unclear in terms of plot. So, I'm thinking of rewriting the thing, when I have the time, to a) be just, well, a tad better and cleared and b) make the songs stand out in the episode structure, and I have in mind something like

Yada yada, x and y are doing a and b, as blabla, and z breaks into
  • Song title, where he, she, they sing about this and this and that.
As the song ends, etc. etc. The group finally meets up and starts singing
  • Song title, about this and this and that
Followed by
  • Song title, about this and that and thus.

and so on, to put it, admitedly, rather crudely, but well, those interested will at least get the point. Any thoughts on this? If not, when I have the time, I'll go ahead and rework it into this structure. A frowning Zed

[edit] Something to Sing About

I just added a sentence about Sarah Michelle Gellar taking on the challenge of "Something to Sing About" after Joss Whedon had originally planned to have Jewel dub it. I tried to make the text sound interesting, but I'm troubled that it might be a bit breathless. Also, I can't recall the source for this information offhand, and I don't have an "OMwF" DVD handy to check its commentary. Could someone look this over and tweak it if needed? Thanks. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 18:48, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] SMG doesn't sing, I'm sure

Sorry, but I remember a Sky One interview with her and Richard Whateverhisnameis (the black guy who used to present [MTV], I forgot his name) and she says "definitely not me" and "lipsinging is easy" etc.

I'm sure.

Someone who's seen this come up with a better quote, please.


even if that is SMG, her voice is so overly warbley that it sounds as though it's undergone considerable digital manipulation. --82.21.200.31 11:07, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Um, there's no such thing as "lipsinging" - it's lip SYNCHING. As in, your lips are in synch with the audio? :P 63.21.81.221 07:31, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm speaking here not from first hand knowledge, certainly, but from listening to a *lot* of singers with distinctive voices. She could have had a stunt singer, but if she did, the voice casting is 100.0% perfect. Which is very unusual; SMG has a *decidedly* distincitve voice.
And, speaking as an audio engineer: "overly warbley"? Huh?
On another point: we have a first-run off-air VHS tape recorded from the Tampa affil. So clearly *some* of the East coast got it cleanly; how shall we re-write that graf? --Baylink 18:25, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
It sounds like SMG, but very autotuned. Of course, it'd be best if we dug up a verifiable source, rather than analysing and remembering. — Matt Crypto 18:48, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm sure the question can resolved if someone would check the DVD commentary for the episode, as I suggested above. (I'd do it myself if I had the DVD, but I don't.) Matt Crypto is correct that we need sources, not speculation. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 19:43, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
I sounds like SMG on the audio (she DOES have a fairly disctinctive voice) - really, all you'd need to do is check the CREDITS. If she had a "stunt singer" to sing for her, surely it would be in the credits, right? Really, though, she's off-key during the "I think I was in heaven" line. Or maybe not necessarily off KEY, literally, but it sounds BAAAAD, like, painfully bad... parts of the song do sound sort of... badly-sung. I doubt they'd sound that way if SMG herself had not sung them, they'd have gotten a better singer, not a bad to mediocre one! I have no doubt that she sings the closing numbers she's supposed to be in. However, credit-checking would be a good way to check it (I can't check it myself because don't have an actual copy of the episode; I do have the soundtrack, as well as a couple of copies of songs from it that somebody had recorded straight from the episode for me). 63.21.81.221 07:31, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Er, no. This is called dissonance, a musical tool often used, as in this case, to express painful emotion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.74.234.225 (talk) 04:24, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it is SMG singing. It's her real singing. The "Heeaaven" line is intentionally in a strange note and not 'off key'. This strange note is repeated exactly by Spike when he sings, "you have to go on Liiiiving". It's done for stylistic reasons. Lastly, the article on this is highly screwed up, repeating itself in many places and featuring all sorts of ridiculous extraneous things - some of them not even pertaining to the episode. --Daniel 15:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

In this video you can see everybody singing. FANSTAR (talk) 22:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I'll Be Mrs?

Should we mention Anya's 'lost' song?

[edit] Trivia/References

Some of the things in the trivia section seem like they should be in the Cultural References section - ie. the Magnolia reference.Satchfan 13:52, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Influences on songs

It would be interesting to mention some of the influences on the various songs written for this episode. For instance, "Standing," seems to have very obvious allusions both stylistically and lyrically to "Free Bird." I know Whedon has commented on inspirations for the music, although I can't remember what he said. Theshibboleth 10:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Songs in other languages

I'd like to know if for other countries they translated the songs, because they did so for the spanish version. The same person who always made their voices in spanish, also sang for this episode. The narrator also said the title right before the song started, so I'd like to know if this was only for Latin America.

[edit] Wrong Track List

Ummm.... The list of tracks presented here doesn't match my copy of the soundtrack cd. "Main Title," listed here as Track 1 is actually Track 19, which bumps all of the intervening tracks up one in the list. Perhaps, my copy was pressed differently from others. However, this is how the tracks are listed at cduniverse.com Could someone please check this and adjust the list if necessary?

I'm not sure, but I believe that there are two different pressings of this. I remember GraceNote seems to get confused when you add this CD onto iTunes. Either that, or the prevailing digital information does not match the actual CDs. -- Jayunderscorezero 22:16, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Sound effect notability

Why is it "notable" that the sound effects included in the TV version are not on the CD? I would have thought this is a norm with soundtracks, as the musical performance is recorded first and then the action and FX added later on. I'll consider this section of text moot; unless anyone challenges its deletion I will remove it in 24 hours. Michaelyoung83 01:51, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Arc Signifigance

I can't get the 'All the way' link to work and the comment about Spike and Buffy's relationship seems to be original research. Lots42 (talk) 17:05, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Music Section

The section 'Music' is all weird. The 'current' Willow seriously does not have stage fright, earlier in this very episode she dances in front of multiple strangers with no reluctance. Granted, the dancing was magically induced, but the argument against the lack of magically induced singing on her part is tied in to her character by the author. In short, it doesn't make sense.

And The opening sequence is completely changed from its usual form, featuring a 26-second main theme whose rock and dark atmosphere was eliminated through its use of percussion in the background and a stereotypical light drum sequence at the end of the theme, similar to the conclusion of heroic classical films. just seems to be complete original research. And I'm not even sure what it means. Lots42 (talk) 05:01, 28 May 2008 (UTC)