Talk:Oldsmobile Cutlass

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I would just like to take a moment to curse whoever at GM thought it was a good idea to have three different vehicles with the same name in the 1980s. I think I finally have it all straightened out, but what a mess! --SFoskett 21:02, Oct 25, 2004 (UTC)

Amen. Makes you wish they'd done what AMC did with Rambler, & elevated it to its own marque. Trekphiler 04:26, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Can we include mention the 215 was sold to BLMC after the F-85/clones ceased production, & continues to be used by Morgan today? Also, should the ability to swap motors be mentioned in a straight article? An article on hot rodding Olds Cutlasses, yes... Trekphiler 04:42, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 1977?

Just wondering if that picture I added should be here?

Also, I swear to god the 1977 4 door is the rarest version of the cutlass ever... If my efforts to find parts have been any indication anyway :|

[edit] Merge Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme

There's a few problems here.

1.) The Supreme was a trim package. 2.) Both these pages duplicate information. 3.) It's confusing what should be where. 4.) GM tried to capitalize on the name of the popular Cutlass and used the same name for numerous cars lines.

It looks like, that at one time, the intent was to refer to the '78-'88 A/G body as Cutlass Supreme, which would be confusing, at best.

I propose Oldsmobile Cutlass cover from '62 to the '97 W body, with the Ciera and N body Calais on their own pages. Dagorlad 04:42, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

The cars are undeniably distinct, and there are a lot of "Cutlass" cars. The main Cutlass article needs to be clear about what cars it does and doesn't cover, and those it doesn't need to be clearly linked to, but putting them all together would be an awfully long article. IFCAR 00:32, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Cutlass Supreme as a separate model refers to the '78-'88 formal roof cars (including the Calais and '85-up Salon) and the '88-'97 W-car. I'd say it's fairly important to have that distinction, since there were three cars with the Cutlass name, and none were just "Cutlass." --Sable232 03:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

No more distinct than the difference between any other generation. The claimed distinction is arbitrary, an F-85 is a Cutlass, a Cutlass is not (if it's not the "right" year), a Cutlass Supreme is a Cutlass (if it the "right" year). I agree the article could get long, probably about as long as Chevrolet_Corvette, if that's the primary concern this page should just be an overview linking to pages for each major variation.Dagorlad 03:30, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

The W-body Supreme has nothing in common with any other Cutlass, past, concurrent, or future. The A-body Ciera and N-body Calais are in a similar situation. The 1997 N-body was just "Cutlass" but was the replacement for the Ciera.
For what it's worth, Oldsmobile enthusiats consider a "true Cutlass" to be the RWD models only.
So, lets think about this for a minute.
  1. Cutlass Ciera needs it's own page.
  2. Calais/Cutlass Calais needs it's own page.
  3. The W-body needs a separate page.
  4. The original Cutlass needs just "Oldsmobile Cutlass."
  5. The '97-on Cutlass needs just "Oldsmobile Cutlass."
Take a look at Buick. The Cutlass Supreme was always similar to the Regal, and the base Cutlass/Ciera was simlar to the Century. I think we need to write the Olds articles just like the Buick ones. Forget the fact that there were two nearly identical Cutlasses in the '70s. The Century and Regal were nearly identical in the '70s and in their later years.
If you look at the articles, the early '70s Supreme was a notchback, the others were fastbacks. In '78, the Supreme had a formal roof, the others did not.
I say that Oldsmobile Cutlass should cover the early Cutlass and the later lower-line models to 1981, and then the '97-99 car. Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme will cover the high-end notchback through '77, the formal roof cars through '88, and the W-body. --Sable232 18:12, 18 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] 64 Two-door Convertible

A friend of mine owns a 1964 two-door convertible and a Google search is turning up a lot of pages about them but that body style is not listed in the Second Gen section body styles. Should I add it or is it considered a sub-style of the coupe? FyreFiend 03:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC)