Talk:Old Strathcona

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Does anyone know what happened to Cafe LaGare? It's significance is, in my opinion, examplaty of the transformation of Whyte Ave from a largely un-branded, sub-cultureesque community into whatever it is today. Consider LaGare, and is mysterious dissapearance, a metaphor.

Yes, I do. Cafe LaGare went out of business when the trend it started overtook it. Too many good coffee stores in better locations. LaGare could not compete. Old Strathcona has some brands but mostly it is local business. Want local business to stay? Support it.

I am proud of having seen this article on Whyte Avenue. It is indeed a terrific and unique place of culture and entertainment in Edmonton!

Contents 1 Bars 2 Merge? 3 Bias 4 Separated Articles

[edit] Bars

Should not something be said of the 3000 bar seats along Whyte Ave, or the Canada riots? Mr Minchin 03:16, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge?

I think that Old Strathcona desrves its own article, apart from Edmonton.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.148.229.44 (talk • contribs)

Oppose. It's typical for neighborhoods of major cities to have articles. See Category:New York City neighborhoods, Category:Districts of London, Category:Montreal neighbourhoods as examples. Edmonton might not be on the same level of "global cities" as those, but there's enough detail specific about Old Strathcona that the article can stand on its own. Though, it's entirely unreferenced and needs cleanup. The Edmonton article is way too long as is, with it's length a reason why it won't pass WP:FAC. Merging more detail into the main article only exacerbates that situation. To the contrary, the Edmonton article needs to cut down on detail and put detail in subarticles. --Aude (talk) 21:17, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Oppose. Old Strathcona is not only deserving of its own article, there should be more articles on Edmonton neighbourhoods like Oliver and Riverdale. --Somewildthingsgo (talk) 21:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Agree. In fact, the part of Edmonton most people think of as Old Strathcona lies in several different Edmonton neighborhoods. We tend to associate Old Strathcona with that part of Whyte Avenue between the University of Alberta and the Mill Creek Ravine. The neighborhood of Strathcona is located north of Whyte and between Mill Creek and 197 Street. West of 107 is Garneau. South of Whyte are the neighborhoods of Queen Alexandra and Ritchie.

Johntwrl 17:39, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bias

This article is written poorly and unprofessionally. The author of some sections shows a distinct bias towards independent businesses, as is evidenced by the list of independents formerly operating at the intersection to be replaced by chain stores. Regardless of opinions on independents versus chain stores, the Wikipedia Old Strathcona article is not the place to state opinions. Rather, it should simply be stated that there exists some resistance to the opening of chain stores on Whyte Avenue.

Furthermore, the description of Yianni's restaurant as a place with many "characters", with a reputation for "alcohol abuse" is completely inappropriate for this article and, as such, was deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.74.11.98 (talk) 04:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Separated Articles

The city of Edmonton has a formal residential subdivision called Strathcona. Parts of this neighbourhood, particularly those along Whyte Avenue, would be associated with Old Strathcona. Other parts, like those east of the CP rail right of way and closer to the river might not.

At the same time, some areas along Whyte Avenue that people might associate with Old Strathcona are actually located in the neighbourhoods of Garneau and Queen Alexandra.

So I've "repurposed" the redirect page to this article called Strathcona (Edmonton) as an article on the residential neighbourhood of Strathcona. This article focus on things like types of housing, periods of residential development, access to other areas of the city, schools, and the like. Things that would be important to someone looking for a place to live.

That means this page can focus more on the commercial and cultural activities associated with this part of the city. Things like the theatre and cinema scene, the bar and pub scens, events such as the Fringe Festival, and the like.

Stuff associated with the historical development of the area, particularly before the area became a part of Edmonton can be placed in the article on Strathcona, Alberta.

Johntwrl 06:34, 15 September 2007 (UTC)