Talk:Occidental Quarterly

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From the article It has been described as a white nationalist journal that seeks to direct American conservatism in the direction of an Anglo-Saxon cultural and racial ideology.[1] has a link at the end that supposedly leads to an article describing it in the way sentence states. The only thing it says about the Occidental Quarterly is "William II has made his mark as a major fundraiser in radical right circles as the founder of the Charles Martel Society in 2001," the Intelligence Report noted. The society publishes The Occidental Quarterly: A Journal of Western Thought and Opinion, "an academic-looking johttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Occidental_Quarterly&action=edit Editing Talk:Occidental Quarterly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaurnal filled with articles by white-supremacist luminaries such as Sam Francis, editor for the white supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens and Wayne Lutton of the hate group The Social Contract Press." In addition it also says, "According to the Quarterly's web site, the Society is currently seeking funding several groundbreaking research projects: Taxing the White Family Out of Existence, a study to determine whether an over-bearing tax burden has forced white wives into the workplace thereby slowing the white birth rate; The Cost of Good Intentions, researching whether too much government money has gone to fostering minority-based programs at the expense of the white middle class; and Abjuring the Realm or How to Mitigate a Toxic Culture -- as life in the United States "become[s] increasingly nasty, brutish and even short for whites," the Quarterly proposes publishing "a primer to help people better contend with the myriad problems of earning a livelihood, finding a support group, filtering out the worst elements of the toxic surroundings, raising and educating children." And this comes from the www.workingforchange.com and in its about section http://www.workingforchange.com/about/index.cfm it says "WorkingForChange is an online journal of progressive news and opinion published by Working Assets. Visit WorkingForChange.com on a daily basis to read the latest dispatches from nationally syndicated reporters and columnists including Joe Conason, David Sirota, Robert Scheer, and Ellen Goodman. Visit WorkingForChange or contact us for more information." This is clearly a politically charged website with a political axe to grind. And within the article aformentioned article there are no references and it is just a political editorial http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=17524 ---RG415WBFA


In general, descriptions of a subject that are opinions should be attributed. So the material above would be better phrased, like this: "Columnist Bill Berkowitz has describe the Occidental Quarterly as..." There are numeorous possible references to writers using various epithets for this publication and we should include a mention of them.
  • "the pseudo-academic journal Occidental Quarterly." [1]
  • "...he moonlights as an editor of The Occidental Quarterly, a pseudo-scholarly "journal of Western thought and opinion.""[2]
  • "Marian Coombs's byline has appeared in many of the far right's flagship publications, from Chronicles to Vdare to The Occidental Quarterly, .."[3]
  • "...the racist journal Occidental Quarterly ." [4]
  • "...The Occidental Quarterly, a white supremacist publication." [5]
  • "Among the most prominent white supremacist organizations are ...the Occidental Quarterly (a journal dedicated to the notion that “immigration into the United States should be restricted to selected people of European ancestry”)."[6]
  • "...while the Occidental Quarterly's anti-Semitic views are well-documented, both in its pages and elsewhere,..." [7]
  • "...The Occidental Quarterly, a publication that civil rights groups say is a white supremacist organ."[8]
  • "...the white nationalist journal The Occidental Quarterly." [9]
So yes, it'd be best to re-write the material to include a broader range of criticism. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 19:33, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

http://www.theoccidentalquarterly.com/editors.html Greg Johnson is the editor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RG415WBFA (talk • contribs) 01:41, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Who in the world is Bill Berkowitz?

Let me say that I have no connection whatsoever to the Occidental Quarterly and, frankly, have never heard of it before an ADL article pronounced it as a 'racist publication,' strong words indeed. In reading this Wikipedia article, I see at the very beginning some person named Bill Berkowitz, who has no Wiki article on him, uses similarly inciting words to describe this journal.

Who he?? Is Wikipedia now a repository of opinion only? Why not include in the article that I consider this "an unknown journal" simply because I'm not familiar with it? I come to Wikipedia because I seek some scholarly objectivity. Am I naive in doing so? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.220.15.66 (talk) 20:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)