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It was more or less conclusivly proved in Nur Banu's own time that she was not of Venetian Jewish nobility as she claimed, and was instead born into a bourgeois Greek Orthodox family that lived on one of the islands ruled by Venice. She was taken by pirates, she created a lofty noble identity for herself to leverage it in the harem politics, and also to recieve gifts and bribes from Venice to insure she maintained il Serenissimo's interests at the Ottoman court.

How could a Jew be the Doge of Venice? john k 00:17, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

It seems unlikely... The only thing I can see in favour is that the Doge in question was the son of a 'Moses'... a Jewish name, and the Dogeship was electoral, so it is possible, perhaps? Furius 11:40, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

A Jew wouldn't be considered Venetian, let alone Doge of Venice; the patriciate was thoroughly Catholic and their descent recorded in state offices, while the residency of Jews (classified as German, Levantine, or Iberian) was tightly restricted. The first writer has it: she told the Venetian baili that she was of a patrician family, and claimed to have lived on a house on the Grand Canal, but never gave any details about her family. Julian Raby, an art historian formerly at Oxford and now a Smithsonian director, writes that she played that story to ingratiate herself with the Venetians and win a larger share of their gift/bribe distribution. --128.252.254.1 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 09:05, 20 December 2007 (UTC)