Talk:Notre Dame de Paris

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[edit] Mary I's marriage to Francois II

I edited the date on which Mary Stuart married Francois II - the page said 1588, but by then, Mary had been executed over a year before, and Francois had died around 1560. The correct year is 1558, which is what I changed it to.

[edit] Hunchback of Notre Dame

Shouldn't this page have at least a mention of The Hunchback of Notre Dame? The book's influence helped to preserve the cathedral in its original state. TheCoffee 18:06, 17 Feb 2005(UTC)

I agree. It's a crime not to mention it! ApsbaMd2 (talk) 17:01, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Failed GA

Looks OK but is insufficiently referenced. No inline citations and only four general references, two of which are about art and one is a travel guide. It's unlikely that those sources are adequate for the level of detail given in this article. savidan(talk) (e@) 12:03, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

The fisrt sentance mentions that the gates of the church face west. Is there any reason why this is stated, partucularly in the first sentance?

[edit] intro

The fisrt sentance mentions that the gates of the church face west. Why is such a seemingly irrelevant fact stated in the introduction? Is there some reason to this? (there is no mention of it in the article).

Sign your posts. What is your problem with this? It's on the east side of the isle and it faces west. How is that irrelevant? Why shouldn't it be in the first paragraph? Maybe you should explain why you think it is so undeserving of mention, or where you think it should be mentioned. As for not being mentioned elsewhere, why does it need to be? The church faces west. That hardly requires elaboration. 12.22.250.4 17:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 130 or 90 meters tall?

In this page it says this cathedral has 90 meters, and at the notredame page it says 130. which one is right???? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_church_towers

Sign your posts. Read it again. Both articles state that the cathedral is 90 metres tall. This article also states that the cathedral is 130 metres long. 12.22.250.4 17:18, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Offending sentence in the article?

Hi all, I've just read the article and was quite surprised to find an offending sentence just after the construction timeline. I think it should be removed.

[edit] Links

In link, you keep "Stained glass Madonna with fleur-de-lis at Notre Dame de Paris" On that page, there is alomost nothing about Notre Dame. on the other side, you reject our link to our page (http: // france.jeditoo.com /IleDeFrance/Paris/4eme/Notre_Dame.htm) reserved to Notre Dame seen by painters with 62 paintings reproductions! So we don't understand your choice !

Dan

jeditoo has been extensively discussed on fr.wikipedia.org, and you know that it is considered spam. You are trying to add the link repeatedly, from an IP address, in many parts of wikipedia. There is no point in trying to rename the web site to avoid spam detection. The link you are referring to is not a commercial site, and has encyclopaedic content, without any ad, so it is considered acceptable. If you disagree, feel free to propose its removal. Vincent Lextrait 16:59, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of Line

I just happened to stop by looking for a picture and saw this ending sentence in the paragraph. I removed it -- unless someone happens to think it should belong. ;)) 71.244.62.36 00:05, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Notre Dame de Paris was one of the first Gothic cathedrals, and its construction spanned the Gothic period. Its sculptures and stained glass show the heavy influence of naturalism, giving them a more secular look that was lacking from earlier Romanesque architecture.it was the first sex place that was held for goths.

[edit] Notre-Dame de Paris vs. Notre Dame de Paris

I think a lot of people are going to confuse this with Victor Hugo's Notre-Dame de Paris, or Hunchback of Notre Dame as is the English title. We should probably include this somewhere at the top of the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.98.106.64 (talk) 00:34, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

I've rarely heard an American pronounce it as Noter Dayme. That indignity is usually reserved for the university. We may sometimes be provincial, but we're not all completely uneducated. Why not just give the French pronunciation. The article on Iran, for example, doesn't say that people in the US pronounce it as Aye Ran.

I have to agree with the unknown commentator above me. "Noter Dayme" is what we call the University in Indiana in the US. It's pronounced correctly when referring to this structure. My point: the "US" pronunciation seems OR. --MPD T / C 21:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree as well. I live on the Kentucky border, the area most likely to pronounce it incorrectly, and I've only ever heard the French pronunciation unless we're speaking specifically about the university. In fact, that's often how we differentiate the two. --74.137.224.33 (talk) 18:42, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I think it should be left as the French say it. --Ntncorntastic (talk) 00:34, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Since the 2 1/2 month-old discussion consensus seems to be that the "US" pronunciation claim is not right in the context of the Cathedral (as opposed the University), I will remove it from the article. If it is reinserted, it should be cited and sourced. --MPD T / C 18:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fact-checking needed

A quick comparison of dimensions given here with those given in the French Wikipédia article reveals discrepancies, so some fact-checking appears to be in order.

There are also at least a couple of blatant mistranslations from French, but I don't have time to copyedit the article right now. Awien (talk) 11:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)