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[edit] Clocker
I'd like to dispute the characterization of Clocker service as "part of Regional service". (I note that Clocker (Amtrak) now redirects to Regional (Amtrak). The Clocker has its own identity (it is not referred to as Regional service in the National Timetable), history (the very first Amtrak train on A-Day was a Clocker out of Penn Station), and operations (NJT passes are honored, NJT ALP-46s are on loan to Amtrak to operate the trains until NJT takes over the service in 2006.)
Especially in light of the looming takeover, the separate identity should be maintained, both on this page, and on a non-redirecting Clocker (Amtrak), which of course will be edited and moved as appropriate come 1 January 2006. I will refrain from making the edit myself until there is a concurring opinion, out of respect for my fellow editor. --CComMack 00:21, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- You seem to more about it that I do; I was just going with Amtrak's site (which lists Clockers on the Regional page). Do Clockers stop at every station, like Regionals? --SPUI 00:28, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Clockers make every station stop between 30th Street and Penn Station NY, including more rarely used ones like North Philly, Cornwells Heights, and New Brunswick, in contrast to Regionals, which usually skip those stops.
Y'know, I should just buckle down and write the article now, shouldn't I. :-) --CComMack 01:34, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Clockers make every station stop between 30th Street and Penn Station NY, including more rarely used ones like North Philly, Cornwells Heights, and New Brunswick, in contrast to Regionals, which usually skip those stops.
Originally, The Clockers were a series of trains that connected New York and Philadelpha on a hourly schedule, meaning that they departed hourly on the hour. They supplemented the Boston-Washington; New York-Washington; New York-Trenton Commuter Trains, and New York-New Brunswick Communiter Trains, and shared track space with the numerous through trains to destinations outside of the corridor. The Clockers all stopped at North Philadelphia, Trenton, Princeton Junction, New Brunswick, and Newark. I am talking BEFORE World War II. SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired) 01:46, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
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- Clockers are NOT part of Regional. Remember they were to be Acela Commuter? No matter, in 6 months, they'll be NJT trains. --N5UWY/9 - plaws 22:11, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
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And, of course what I meant by "in 6 months, they'll be NJT trains" was "in 4 weeks, they'll be NJT trains". Last Amtrak Clocker was this past Friday - 4 new NJT trains from Trenton this morning. I've updated the Clocker page appropriately, though it really needs a section on the Pennsy Clockers. --N5UWY/9 - plaws 21:50, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] NEC endpoints and branches
If you look at http://www.gao.gov/archive/1995/rc95151b.pdf, you'll see that, officially, the NEC includes the Keystone Corridor, the Empire Corridor, and even the Atlantic City line, even though Amtrak only owns 10 miles of the Empire and 0 miles of the AC line. Any ideas on how to note that? --N5UWY/9 - plaws 22:10, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- Amtrak "serves" the Altantic City Rail Terminal via the NEC. However, the actual service is limited to ticket sales. If you purchase a ticket to ACY on amtrak.com or from a QuikTrak machine, you will recieve a seperate ticket for $7.25 from PHL to ACY; it is an Amtrak ticket but the NJTransit ticket collectors accept them without asking questions. The trains are all operated by NJTransit. As far as I can tell there is no schedule coordination. But the schedule is listed in the system timetable, and Amtrak does own 6 miles of the Atlantic City line (see page 6 of the GAO document you linked to). --Adam613 23:53, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
It appears that oficially, possibly at another level, the NEC only goes from Washington to NYC. From NYC to Boston, the lines are the Amtrak Hellgate Line (where does the NEC become the HG?), Metro-North New Haven Line, and Amtrak Shore Line. The other Amtrak lines are the Chicago Line, Post Road Branch, "Harrisburg - Philadelphia", Main Line (Shore to Atlantic City), Hartford Line, and Michigan Line (?).[1] --NE2 19:24, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- According to this huge PDF, the Hellgate Line goes at least to Harold Interlocking (Sunnyside Yard). It's not clear what the name of the line between Penn Station and Harold, dispatched jointly by Amtrak and the LIRR, is called. Maybe it's just the East River Tunnels. --NE2 12:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
- This list transcribed from the 1975 Conrail Final System Plan (should it be moved out of the user space and into the talk space, like to Talk:Consolidated Rail Corporation/Amtrak lines acquired from Conrail?) shows that the Hellgate Line does go to Penn Station, assuming no change since 1975. The line from Penn Station to DC is shown as the "Main Line", but that term is also used for the Philadelphia to Harrisburg Main Line. --NE2 13:08, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] References
[edit] Love the map!
Only one nit: the section from the Rhode Island state line to South Station is owned by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Operated, dispatched, etc, by Amtrak, but owned by the Commonwealth. --N5UWY/9 - plaws 21:57, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
- Map still needs updating. --N5UWY/9 - plaws 17:45, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Height Restrictions
It would be nice to have a list of areas too short for the bi-level cars, and what their heights are. JNW2 20:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Amtrak and Massachusetts
The article says "Amtrak now operates and maintains the portion in Massachusetts", apparently without any citation. Is that true now that Amtrak does not operate the MBTA commuter rail trains? JNW2 07:21, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Number of parallel tracks
It would be nice if this article clearly stated how many parallel tracks there are in the various parts of the Northeast Corridor. JNW2 (talk) 02:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Bridges
A list of movable bridges in the Northeast Corridor might be a nice thing to have. (Or maybe a list of all the bridges clearly showing whether each is movable.) It would be nice if such a list stated how many tracks wide each bridge is. JNW2 (talk) 02:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Electrification
It would be nice to let people know this is an AC line, and where are some famous "neutral sections" along the line
