Talk:Nomar Garciaparra

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[edit] NPOV

This article desperately needs some new adjectives. It is full of POV statements, especially when describing Nomar's throwing style (far from perfect). Really needs some touch-ups. -Anon

Hi, thanks for bringing this to my attention. Here are a few of the changes that I've made:
  1. Jeter and Tejada should be referred to as being among the best shortstops statistically. This gets rid of the weasel phrase "most observers agree".
  2. "good power and excellent baserunning ability" in 1996? 4 home runs, 5 stolen bases, and a .241 batting average isn't overwhelming. I've reworded this to include the statistics.
  3. Took out the "(where many projected he would spend his entire career)" in the first paragraph of the Cubs section. It might not be clear whether "many" refers to sportswriters/front office personnel/etc., or just the writer of that edit inserting their POV.
I hope that what I did helps. Also, I noticed that the "Style of play" section only discusses defense. It should also discuss offense-related areas of his game, such as his batting stance, so that the section will be more complete.
--Idont Havaname 22:33, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! The article looks much better -in a NPOV way --Thebends 00:28, 4 January 2006 (UTC) (Previously Anon)

[edit] Links

removed a link that is no longer active referring to the nomar saves women in a creek statement

[edit] Pronunciation

His pronunciation was questioned after having multiple pronunciatons.

Gŏrcēŭpŏrŭ (Latin, preferred, most common)

Gŏrcēŭpĕrŭ (Anglicized, no longer used)

Obviously, he preferred the Latin name. Therefore, the anglicized name is no longer used.

[edit] LA Times mention!

I just read Column One today. They said that Wikipedia speculates that Nomar's tics are caused by OCD. I see that line has since been removed from the article. Hbdragon88 18:17, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

The OCD comment appears to have been added in May 2006, and removed yesterday (by, I am guessing, someone who saw the LA Times article). Pure speculation, of course, and thus totally inappropriate, and rather embarrassing for Wikipedia to have it quoted so prominently. David Watson 21:27, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I figured, especially with BLP in force. But now that the sepculation has been also backed by a reliable source, could it not be added in? Hbdragon88 02:00, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
The LA Times article does a good job of describing Nomar's pre-batting ritual, but I would say from the description in the article, I wouldn't describe the behavior as "tics", and there should be no mention of OCD unless you can find a reputable source that doesn't mention the Wikipedia. The article also has some info that might be mined for the Baseball superstition article. BlankVerse 05:42, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
What's BLP? And it would be pretty ironic if unsourced speculation in a Wikipedia article could be properly sourced by referring to a newspaper story that quotes it as Wikipedia speculation. David Watson 07:23, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
WP:BLP - biographies of living persons - unsourced or poorly sourced negative statements must immediately be removed from the article. Hbdragon88 20:41, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nomar Letter

What is this letter from Nomar and where is it from? Does it even belong in this article, assuming it is legitimate.--Mike8153 01:06, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Removed; it is pure PR type stuff, no real information, would not be appropriate here even if proper context were provided.David Watson 21:34, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Dave Roberts trade

The article incorrectly stated that Dave roberts was involved in the mega deal that took Nomar to the Cubs, he was in fact part of a one-for-one deal with the Dogers for Triple-A outfielder Henri Stanley--Andyk 94 16:21, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nomar's exit from the Red Sox

The section about Nomar leaving the Sox is loaded with unsourced comments ..We should try to get this cleaned up... for example

  • "This was widely felt to be the final nail in Garciaparra's coffin in Boston,," Widely felt by whom exactly?
  • "Garciaparra reportedly told a Red Sox trainer that he would have to miss much of August and September, causing Theo Epstein to decide that the struggling team needed a new shortstop" He "reportedly" told someone?? Unless we have a source with this, I'm gonna delete it.. seems to be purely hearsay.
  • "Despite losing a player with a lifetime average above .320, the controversial trade, along with the acquisition of Dave Roberts from the Dodgers on the same day, is often credited as giving the Red Sox the spark they needed to win the World Series in 2004" Often credited by whom?? Again we should have a source on this.. is this just the talk of some Red Sox fans or the talk from the Boston Globe?

[edit] Getting his start

This entire section seems unnecessary. I'm not sure why it's there, so in case there's a reason for it that I don't see, I won't remove it. However, it should be brought to everyone's attention, for it does not seem to add anything to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tithonfury (talk • contribs) 00:43, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Holy trinity.

How can a holy trinity have four members?

I don't remember seeing Tejada in those Amtrak commercials, so he should be the one nixed. Perplexed 16:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I removed that whole "holy trinity" statement... seemingly someone's personal commentary and doesn't really belong here. Spanneraol (talk) 17:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)