Talk:Nokia 3310

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[edit] External links: Broken / Moved pages

Firstly, I reinstated the External Links section. What happened was that someone replaced the relevant external links with less useful internal links. Then (I assume) someone else saw the new (and not improved) section, figured that it wasn't much good and removed it altogether.

I appreciate that the Nokia links were broken (although the about.com one wasn't). However, I found an equivalent (moved?) page at nokia.com within 15 seconds using Google.

If a link is broken, and it's likely just moved (or a similar/equivalent page is easily available), then please spend a few seconds with Google and update it, instead of simply deleting it! (Grr...)

Thanks :-)

Fourohfour 18:22, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nokia 3315 redirect

I made Nokia 3315 into a redirect when I noticed it had been created; the reason being that the 3315 is very similar to the 3310 (i.e. a variant).

Bharat12 changed it back, saying that "Nokia 3315 deserves its own page", but they didn't explain why.

The article as it was was just a list of information (which is generally frowned upon). But I would not have made it a REDIRECT if I thought a good standalone article was possible.

However, IMHO any 3315 article would either duplicate most of the content in Nokia 3310, or would remain a stub only explaining minor differences. These are clear signs that a standalone article is a bad idea.

I think that the 3315 (and related phones) would be better served by keeping the information together. Please give me your thoughts. Thanks!

Fourohfour 17:38, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

(Following comment moved from "Nokia 3315 Why it need its own page")
Please see http://www.nokia.com.au/nokia/0,,36946,00.html
Nokia 3315 is a Nokia phone different from 3310. They may be similar in ways but they are different,
There are minor differences, of course. But these differences are IMHO minor and do not warrant separate articles. Fourohfour 13:33, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thats why they have different model numbers. Each Nokia phone should have its own wikipedia page.
I disagree. Some phones are clearly very different and deserve separate pages. But in cases (here) where there are only very small functional or cosmetic differences, the benefit to separate pages is small, and the drawback of duplicating separating related information is large. Fourohfour 13:33, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Why should Nokia 3315 not be included? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bharat12 (talk • contribs) 01:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC).


The Nokia 3315 *is* included. Please note that 3330, 3350, 3390 and 3395 also lack separate articles for the same reason.

Nokia 3310 is the title of the article simply because that is the "base" model. It covers many phones, including the Nokia 3315.

However, if you disagree, I challenge you to create a *proper* article for the Nokia 3315 that

  • Does *not* duplicate large chunks of facts/text/information from the Nokia 3310 article. (Duplication implies overlap, which implies that related information belongs together).
  • Is not a stub. Some stubs exist because there has not been enough time to create a full article. However, other stubs exist because there is not enough to say about that specific subject, and there never will be. Your job is to demonstrate that there are *significant* differences between the 3310 and the 3315.
  • Does not rely on long lists of copied specifications. The old version of the article is just a copy of the specs. It is not a proper article; Wikipedia is not just a repository of information.
  • Does not rely on nitpicking and excessive focus on minor differences.

I look forward to seeing your attempt. Thank you. Fourohfour 13:33, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] taboo in pakistan??

This is one of the most popular nokia phones in the world. Why on earth is it considered taboo in pakistan? The one liner given in the Misc section isn't nearly enough and doesn't explain anything. It goes back for a couple of versions of this entry, so can someone explain/research it? I couldn't find anything. Squiggle 15:39, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like garbage to me. I removed it, as it's sufficiently dubious without explanation *and* citation. Unfortunately, the contributor is anonymous, meaning it's unlikely to be worth the time asking them. If they want it back, they can add a ref, but take it from me; this is 99% probably garbage. Fourohfour 15:04, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not taking off in Europe?

Of the 3330, the article states: "Without true GPRS connectivity the the WAP feature proved unpopular and the version was unable to replace the 3310 in the European market." That's not my recollection at all. In the UK, a couple of months after the 3330 launched, it wasn't possible to get the plain 3310 any more, only the 3330 - for the same price. Anyone know where the current version comes from? Tim (Xevious) 12:51, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spy Bug Feature?

The feature list contains "Spy Bug Phone" inserted among the other features. It apparently refers to the fact that there are ways to configure / hack it to be used as a bugging device: http://www.spyreview.co.uk/2006/04/22/nokia-3310-spy-bug-phone/

I wonder if this belongs among the ordinary features though? Maybe some criticism or own section instead, if it is notable?

The change that introduced the mention of Spy Bug Phone is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nokia_3310&diff=206647602&oldid=206646513 Added by User:Feysal who already has a remark on his Talk page about adding unsourced material —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.145.249.35 (talk) 10:52, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 3330

What is this SMS-bases WAP capability? As I know and understand, it doesn't use SMS for the data transfer, but something like GSM data. And "without true GPRS", well what sort of GPRS you mean it has. And personal opinion, I think bigger reason for unpopularity of the wap feature was the prize of GSM data, not the lack of GPRS feature. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.251.63.193 (talk) 23:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)