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Contents 1 Scouting 2 Requested move 2.1 Discussion 3 1875? 4 Port Arthur Massacre

[edit] Scouting

The Japanese article links him to Boy Scouting, in what context? Chris 01:58, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

Maresuke Nogi → Nogi Maresuke – "In accordance with wikipedia protocol on names of Japanese people born before start of the Meiji era (1867)" User:MChew, as posted on Requested Moves.

Add "* Support" or "* Oppose" followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~

• Support in accordance with Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles)#Names of historical figures. Fg2 09:56, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose, it sounds better this way :)) -- Raja Lon Flattery 19:14, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
• Support - MoS overrides aesthetics. Neier 23:58, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

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This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. Vegaswikian 19:33, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1875?

According to the wikipedia article on the Satsuma Rebellion, the conflict was in 1877. Elsewhere, Sato Hiroaki has also written that the loss of the banner during that conflict was in 1877 (review of 'Suicidal Honor', www.japantimes.co.jp, April 8, 2007). An online dictionary of Japanese history also says that the Seinan/Satsuma Rebellion was in 1877.

The Kodansha Encyclopedia of Japan has an article on Nogi, and it says the loss of the flag was in 1877.

There is a chapter on Nogi's life in 'Six Lives, Six Deaths: Portraits from Modern Japan', by Lifton, Kato, and Reich, Yale Univ. Press, 1979.

[edit] Port Arthur Massacre

There should be some mention of this, like "He was largely responsible for the later atrocity that occurred after occupation, known as the Port Arthur Massacre." Yes? Hanfresco (talk) 07:53, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

No -Strongly disagree - the Port Arthur Massacre (and there is considerable historical debate as to whether or not this event actually occured) has been attributed to forces under command of General Yamaji Motoharu (1841-1897), not Nogi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MChew (talk • contribs) 08:09, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Ah indeed, you're right. However, the event also occurred. It's the scope that's debated. Hanfresco (talk) 07:11, 18 December 2007 (UTC)