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[edit] Regarding Futami Jouwa

Could you provide a translation or explanation of Futami Jouwa, please? Andrewa 22:09, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Maori

Hello, Mark from AZ! Thanks for your contributions to "Maori language" - are you aware that there is now a Maori language Wikipedia? Robin Patterson 07:14, 1 May 2004 (UTC)

Yes Robin, unfortunately I am not a Maori speaker. I do know one though, and at the soonest opportunity... well... yeah. Node

Mark, there has been a lot of progress since your comments a few months ago. Less English, more Maori. Please ask your Maori-speaking friend to come back and contribute to making it even better. (And you may be interested in what I said on DavidCannon's talk page a few minutes ago.) Robin Patterson 19:29, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Various replacements

I disagree with your decision to replace the SAMPA on Common phrases in different languages with IPA, especially since support for IPA characters is not that good (subjectively).

Also, please restore Finnish to that page, which you deleted and replaced with another copy of French, which you later deleted. (You also deleted Danish and Hungarian but restored those later. Finnish is still missing.)

Finally, if you're really keen on IPA-ising, consider doing Esperanto and/or Klingon from Common phrases in constructed languages (the other languages seem not to use SAMPA but rather pseudo-English). -- pne 12:36, 3 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Towards kw:

I have lomg considered setting up a Cornish language wiki, but I get the distinct impression from the few Cornish speakers I know that I would be sitting in a room by myself (they have an agenda of their own...). But frankly I have other stuff to do which has a higher priority, like learning and improving my modern Danish, Swedish, Norwegian and Icelandic. user:sjc

[edit] Please be careful...

... while editing pages. I have had to clean after you at Taiwanese (linguistics) today, and it was not pleasant. And please refrain from writing about something you are not familiar with, such as in Common phrases in different languages: Taiwanese. Cheers. -- Kaihsu 20:42, 2004 May 8 (UTC)

My removal of the "Grammar" section was unintentional. It is not my fault that you are a rabid proponent of the de-Sinicization movement, but the truth remains: Taiwanese is, undeniably, a Sinitic language and has been written with Chinese characters for years. Please do not throw insults at me just for making factual edits that do not support your opinions. - Node

[edit] Please be careful...even more

Hi Node ue -- I just reverted your edit to the US language page because some of the changes you made linked to non-existent articles and other changes deleted info from the article. Please don't "fix" things by making things consistent but no longer linked -- and please go back and review your edits -- there are far too many for others to have to clean up after you, and people will (out of necessity) start to revert your edits, since it's so much work to try to figure out what is correct, what is questionable, and what is wrong -- especially since we're just volunteers too. Thanks, BCorr|Брайен 21:23, May 8, 2004 (UTC)

I don't think you understand my intentions at that article. If you look closer, you will see that many of the WikiLinks link to pages on ethnic groups rather than languages (with the exception of Tagalog, in which case I was mistaken). If you are referring to my edits in the article on native north american languages, the same applies. If an article on one of the native north american languages doesn't exist even though an article for the ethnic group DOES, the proper solution is not to link to the ethnic group instead but to write an article on the language yourself or leave it as it is. Node
Hi Node ue -- I actually did realize that, but the ones that I'm talking about included changing Tagalog to Tagalog language (the article is at Tagalog), Indic to Indic languages (which redirects to Indo-Aryan languages) and Creole language to Haitian Creole language (which doesn't exits -- but Haitian Creole does). So I feel my comments still stand. Thanks, BCorr|Брайен 21:56, May 10, 2004 (UTC)
In any case, Tagalog language does indeed exist as you can see by the blue-ness rather than red-ness. Sure, it's a redirect page, but at least it exists. Indic languages may indeed redirect to Indo-Aryan languages, but it is more relevant to the topic at hand than is Indic which should (if it isn't; I haven't looked) be an article about the adjective "Indic" used to describe anything of the area surrounding the Indus River Valley, including modern-day Pakistan, India, Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, and the Maldives. (ie, the Indian subcontinent). Haitian Creole language may not exist, but upon seeing that, the proper Wikipedian thing to do would've been to either 1. fix the link or 2. (more preferably) to change it so that Haitian Creole language redirected to Haitian Creole. - Node

[edit] Node's question to Moriori

Hi, Node. Re your curiosity re me speaking Maori or Moriori, or just English, I think my best answer is that I understand Maori/Moriori a little bit, speak them less than a little bit, and write them even bitsier, so I am neither use nor ornament to the Maori wiki. Cheers. Moriori 00:09, May 15, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki in luxembourgish

Hi

I got your message about wiki in luxembourgish. First of all, the page you gave me doesn't exist ( http://lb.wikipedia.org ) and actually I have no clue how to start a whole new wikipedia. Second, I think that lu would make much more sense than lb because all the luxembourgish homepages end in .lu and we are just so used to it :-) Maybe you can give me further indications because of course I would love to contribute for a wiki of my tiny country :-)

fr:User:Briséis

[edit] Question

Hi Node! You wrote (on the Meta): I can think of at least 1 language with over 1 million speakers that is not included in ISO 639-3. Would you mind letting me know what language that is? You can reply on my talk page (User_talk:Davidcannon). Thank you. David Cannon 02:46, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thank you, Node, for your reply on my talk page. Interesting stuff. I recall reading a book about fifteen years ago ("The Origin of the Japanese Language" by Ohno Susunu; I'm not sure whether I've spelled his last name correctly). I recommend it highly. In some depth he explored the relationship between Japanese and Ryukuan, insisting that they were separate, albeit related, language. He also pushed the Altaic connection theory, which is not so widely accepted. That said, I found his reasoning plausible. At any rate, it's an interesting matter. David Cannon 09:29, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] User Interface

Hi :) Thanks for your message, though I'm not exactly sure what to translate, only the page itself or the links too ? (like MediaWiki:Monobook.js for example). Plus, I got a message over the mailing list to translate this page -> Special:Allmessages only I can't because it's a Special Page and there's no edit button :) Thanks for your help :)

Briséis

[edit] Dicdefs

Hi, Node: When nominating dicdefs for deletion, please add the {{vfd}} tag and follow the procedure at the bottom of Wikipedia:Votes for deletion, rather than adding the {{delete}} tag, since according to Wikipedia:Deletion policy, dicdefs do not fall under the category of "candidates for speedy deletion" (which {{delete}} denotes). Yours, Sewing - talk 16:05, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] mg:

As of today, I haven't gotten any messages from a Malagasy Linux User Group. I wonder if that's because I'm a Windows user. I'm even upgrading to XP later this year. Anyways, thanks for the note. --Merovingian✍Talk 13:05, Aug 20, 2004 (UTC)


[edit] ᎣᏏᏳ, ᎹᎸᎩ

Hi Mark. I'm guessing it was you who left me a message on CHR. I've replyed there. --Etse


[edit] All your base are belong to us

To answer your question, no, I don't speak Japanese yet. That was never my point and you should know that. As you can see, that translation is intended to "capture the spirit and tone which the author seems to have been intending", and it's been that way for quite a while now. It's not supposed to reflect the original text perfectly. First, because it's impossible, and second, because it has to be adapted or it wouldn't make sense. It just didn't seem right to me that someone comes out of nowhere and changes every single line from that translation. If you think it's better that way, fine.

If it isn't, someone else will change it, don't you think? – Mackeriv 19:49, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Oh, it was you. Now I see.

Okay, I admit I didn't have the right of doing that. So, I'm sorry for this. I'll drop it now. Won't edit my previous entry here either. – Mackeriv 19:55, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] "Persian" and "Farsi"

Please note that the Persian Wikipedia contains both Farsi and Dari (which constitute "Persian"). "Tajik" has its own code in ISO 639, "tg" and "tgk", as opposed to "fa", "fas", and "per" for "Persian". See ISO 639. The Persian wikipedia has both Farsi and Dari. roozbeh 11:07, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] 'mania meeting?

Hi Node,

If you can make it to the Wikimania meeting later this week, that would be great. One of the things we are talking about is multilingualism and goegraphic/project/other diversity at the conference, and it would be helpful to have people present who are familiar with recent developments in minor languages.

Also, is there any chance of you attending Wikimania this year?

Cheers, +sj + 02:58, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Persian milestone

Hi Node! The difficulty is in understanding the Persian script. Two languages (Persian and Hindi) now have their article counter in non-latin script. By observing dates, etc. I've done my best to decipher the numbers. Last time I checked, the NUMBER OF ARTICLES counter read FOUR digits. From right-to-left, it read (if I deciphered it correctly): 7001 (i.e., 1007 our way).

If I'm wrong and you can read their script, please correct me. David Cannon 10:54, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting me, Node! I appreciate that! David Cannon 04:12, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Korean Wikipedia

Hi again! Thanks for your comments. I agree, the Korean Wikipedia got off to a very sluggish start. I think they have shown somewhat better growth over the last month, however. No, I don't often edit there (I did once upload an entire article - that was before I knew what a third-rate job electronic translators do). I have tried to interest my wife in the idea - but her interests generally lie elsewhere. Maybe she'll pitch in later:-) But yes, growing the Korean Wikipedia must be an urgent priority. David Cannon 11:24, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)


[edit] Bân-lâm-gú logo

Thanks for the lovely Bân-lâm-gú logo -- ló·-la̍t, kám-siā. And btw, so that's where zh-tw ended up. It disappeared off the radar screen before I'd had an opportunity to sneak a peek. A-giau 03:23, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Ah, I see the transparency fix now, thanks again.

My current feeling re zh-tw as a non-editor (interlanguage links not withstanding): I wish more Traditional Chinese editors would weigh in on the issue -- and not just on zh. I do not believe most Traditional Chinese readers today can handle Simplified with any degree of comfort; a good number will, perhaps unfortunately, simply leave rather than suffer the script (no pun intended). I still pin some hope on a technical partial-solution encompassing some lexical-level conversions, as I do believe they are writing essentially the same language. A-giau 07:30, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Milestone statistics

Hi again! Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you. I've been out and about a lot over the weekend, and finding time to attend to replies and the like has been a bit problematic. Better late than never, however ... Anyway, thank you so much for pointing out my overlooking of the Template:Wikipedialang. That was careless of me. I guess I keep an eye on the Milestone Statistics page because I created that table in the first place; I've been far less involved with the Wikipedialang template which is why I rather easily forget about it. I'll try to be more careful in future.

BTW, you'll see that I've moved Portuguese to the 20,000 slot. They've gained an incredible 6500 new articles in less than 3 weeks, and have overtaken Danish as the 10th largest wiki. It wouldn't surprise me if the millionth article should turn out to be theirs. David Cannon 09:51, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Milestone statistics

Hi again! Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you. I've been out and about a lot over the weekend, and finding time to attend to replies and the like has been a bit problematic. Better late than never, however ... Anyway, thank you so much for pointing out my overlooking of the Template:Wikipedialang. That was careless of me. I guess I keep an eye on the Milestone Statistics page because I created that table in the first place; I've been far less involved with the Wikipedialang template which is why I rather easily forget about it. I'll try to be more careful in future.

BTW, you'll see that I've moved Portuguese to the 20,000 slot. They've gained an incredible 6500 new articles in less than 3 weeks, and have overtaken Danish as the 10th largest wiki. It wouldn't surprise me if the millionth article should turn out to be theirs.

Your milestone predictions made me smile, too. I wonder what Ævar's face will look like when he hears that he's going to have to wait till 2008 for his Wikipedia to reach 10k <grin>. David Cannon 09:54, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for Nynorsk logo!

Hi there. 多謝 for support and for making that logo :) BjarteSorensen 10:30, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] 6500 articles in 3 weeks

Hi Node! Yes, I do believe a bot is at work on the Portuguese Wikipedia. BTW, the number is up to 8000 now. About 6000 of the 8000 new articles this month have been uploaded by E2mb0t - the last part of the name indeed suggests a bot. Most of its uploads appear to be short articles (little more than stubs) about Brazilian cities. this article is a typical sample. David Cannon 20:05, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] LB Logo

Hi,

Thanks for the logo, there's just a small problem. It's my fault actually, I got the text wrong. The correct Text should be: Wikipedia - Déi fräi Enzyklopedie (so ä instead of a in the word fräi). Luxembourgish is a very difficult language to write, even though I'm a native speaker :)

Another question: How do we get the logo in place ?

Thx a lot :)

Briséis

[edit] Tatar Wikipedia

Hi, Node Ue!

You added Tatar logo, but all Tatar messages dissapeared! What I need to to to set messages back? --Untifler 14:02, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] You

Hi there...I just went through a dry spell, wikipedia-wise, due to...life. I don't want to give up Wikipedia, I just have no time for it these days. Anyway. I was just going through my typical wikipedia browsing and came upon your page. I read all about you and I'm just trying to figure out WHO and WHAT you are really...you're like this enigma and i want to figure you out o_o.

I, myself, have an intense love for languages...born in Spain, obviously know English, learning Japanese and Russian...it's hard work, but fun. You seem to have a love for languages as well...but not 4, or 5, or even 8. It seems like every feasible language that could exist, you have somehow contributed to its Wikipedia cause. I'm just curious how this is even POSSIBLE. I, myself, would love to do the same, but after a while it becomes impossible to retain this much information in your head!

So, I'd like to have some sort of chat with you about what languages you're truly into, how youve helped, etc. Feel free to check out my user page. Lockeownzj00 01:32, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)


[edit] gu: Logo

Hi Node ue,

Thanx for helping out. Wikipedia: The transliteration is "??????????" another alternative that I am toying with is "???????" which is a translation. If you want to make only one logo... make with the first alternative.. if you feel like it making 2 logos will be great.

Wikipedia: The free encyclopedia
will be translated to

"??????????: ????? ?????????????"
or
"???????: ????? ?????????????"
quotes are added to delimit the text.

Thanx --Spundun 05:45, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] thanks for offering the logo...

Thanks for volunteering to conjure the logo for the kn wikipedia. The Translation goes like this:

Wikipedia : "ವಿಕಿಪೀಡಿಯ" next line: "ಒಂದು ಸ್ವತಂತ್ರ ವಿಶ್ವಕೋಶ"

And as for the template is concerned, we're happy with the present one and everyone has liked it. thanks for the link though. :)

--Hpnadig 15:46, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Cherokee, Navajo, and Jeremy, oh my!

Hey there, man. Haven't had ANY time for Wikipedia lately (obviously!). Hm... Logging in, I noticed that some dumba** had decided to vandalize the main Cherokee page, which annoys me. I really have minimal experience dealing with these people on Wikipedia, so your input is appreciated. It doesn't look like it's going to be a repeated thing, though, but it perturbs me. It's been an interesting couple of days and I'm half-asleep right now, so I'd appreciate it if you could take care of the main page for me. I removed a big block of dumba** text, but otherwise, some of the vandalism still stands, and I'm a bit brain-dead at the moment! (Very full Friday, up all night, some sleep, work, stuff to do, etc.) Would you like to help me with CHR? I would really like to work on it, but I'm just so ridiculously busy right now that I don't think about it. It's really hard to fit in time for it lately without staying up late (as I am now).

So you set up NV? Cool! Glad to hear it!

Yeah, I should write out the original syllabary stuff for you... :-) lol. Fine, fine. I've got a Notepad window open on my computer with a note to annoy me until I do so! I had been putting it off because of not wanting to deal with my scanner, which I will have to set up and such, but I might as well. Send me a quick e-mail, too--it's a much easier way to get in touch with me lately!

lol. Gotta represent, but I have no time for it, lately. Anyway, keep up the good work. You really do do a lot for Wikipedia. Perhaps you could tell me more about Wikipedia, what you like about it, working on it, etc. I do find Wikipedia to be very useful and use it quite often, though! Feel free to go right ahead with working on CHR for me! ^_^ - Jeremy (Etse)


[edit] Thanks for the csb logo

Dear Node,

Thanks a lot for your contribution to the CSB wiki with the logo. However, there is a small problem. Like most Slavic languages, Kashubian is a highly inflective language. Nouns and adjectives can have seven cases (six cases are common, the seventh is relatively rare). It means that depending on the context in the sentence, words can take one of the several endings. "Wòlny encyklopedije" (as you wrote in the logo) is the Genitive form, used in the meaning "from where" , "belonging to whom".

In the case of the logo we would use the Nominative, which is the neutral case. The Nominative form looks like this: Wikipedijô, Wòlnô encyklopedijô. Would it be possible for you to change that? I don't have the Hoefler font and cannot do it :-( Thanks in advance.

Kind regards, UCZK 18:18, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Berber logo

See some comments on m:Talk:Wikipedia_in_other_languages#Berber_wikipedia

I replied in wa:Uzeu copene:Pablo#Berber logo talk page

[edit] Milestone predictions, minority languages, etc.

Hi Node! Thank you for updating me about your milestone predictions and for sharing your thoughts about the lack of willing contributors to the smaller wikipedia projects. I admire your dedication to the task of getting wikipedias established in new languages. Finding contributors who are both able and willing may indeed be difficult at first, but the point is that as long as the wikipedia in a particular language exists, it will eventually attract contributors. Andre Engels pointed out that even the giant German wikipedia had only one active contributor for the first year of its existence.

I think you're doing a great work with your pro-new language activism. Keep it up! David Cannon 11:19, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Anglo-Saxon Logo

Hi Node! Thanks for the logo for the Anglo-Saxon wiki...could you update the logo for me? It's on the [logo request page]

[edit] Logos

The following logos don't seem to exist so I've removed them from non-development tasks for developers. If you know what the right links for these logos should be, please replace them. Thanks.

Angela. 20:41, Oct 16, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Cherokee Original Syllabary

Hey, Node. Well, if you can send me an e-mail, I'll send you the syllabary. It's lost in the recesses of my computer at the moment, and I have to set up my scanner first. Got no sleep last night. Craziness lately w/ school and such. (Do me a favor and remove my e-mail from the page once you grab it) -- Jeremy (Not logged in; hurrying on!)

[edit] Friulian/Furlan wiki

[edit] Arabic language stuff

Thanks! I'm working on it... Akkadian language, at least, is better in Arabic than English. But there's so much groundwork to fill in the Arabic Wikipedia, and so many obscure technical terms to look up... ;) I like your Ryukyuan stuff, btw, not to speak of the Navajo Wikipedia materials. Keep it up! - Mustafaa 02:40, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Arabic translation of Ryukyuan languages done... - Mustafaa 00:42, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Ibanag language

The reason I place an acknowledgement, is not really to acknowledge but because I seem to be favorite victim of copyright violator checkers. 2 articles I wrote (parts at least) where copied to other websites, I was accused of copying from them. (I'm still a bit angry about this and the accuser is probably the only person in the history of wikipedia to nominate himself for administratorship )With the acknowledgements, it will be clearer to know the source and that it wasn't copied. I'm very careful now about citing and acknowledging sources. Chris is a wikipedian. Best regards,--Jondel 05:58, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Three Kingdoms of Korea, in Navajo

The interwiki link to your translation is busted; maybe you could you try using Unicode entities rather than literal characters? --Saforrest 17:46, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Wikipedia-l: Banned from editing except on en

"annoying edits" are not grounds for banning on ANY Wikipedia. Do they violate policy? Not that I can see. Do they disrupt the workings? Hah! There are no workings.

Yes, it does disrupt the workings. Removing links to the pages that new users need to read to find out what Wikipedia is and how they can help are vital to the main page before a project has any users.

Replacing boilerplate text in English with text in the target language may be annoying to YOU, but to speakers of that language it is more likely to be seen as a gesture which seeks to invite them to participate and make them more comfortable.

The "text in the target language" is only any use if it makes sense in that language. You admitted you don't speak these languages so how do you know it makes sense? The text also needs to be relevant to Wikipedia. Adding a paragraph about the National Language Services that you copied directly from some website and removing all Wikipedia-related content is not helpful to those who speak the language.
The Venda Main Page is copied directly from [1].

As I noted before, I am not 100% sure of the things I wrote in articles on bo: or sq: (but I didn't write hundreds of articles, and I know they're at least not totally gibberish), but unless I note otherwise for any other text I post, I do not have any doubt that it is 100% correct (unless it's not grammatically, in which case I can easily do some fact-checking before posting)

You were asked to stop doing this on sq: by at least one of the users there who is fluent in Albanian. Does this not tell you something about the appropriateness of your edits?

Perhaps we should show these people the edit you are talking about? http://fj.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Main_Page&oldid=1459

As you can clearly see, compared to the version that was there previously, it is preferrable because there is actually content IN THE TARGET LANGUAGE (if you wish to assert it is somehow incorrect, I would respectfully request that you confirm that beforehand with a professional translator or areal linguist unless you claim to speak the language yourself and can offer an explanation or correction)

Firstly, I did check with a user who knows Fijian. Secondly, directing users to your email address when you don't speak the language isn't going to help them.

However Angela did indeed revert a contribution on another Wikipedia... Since she simply specified in the edit summary that it was "vandalism", I reverted her edits with an edit summary "isibusi vandalism" - she had removed legitimate, target-language content and replaced it with content in English.

[http://ve.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Main_Page&diff=4&oldid=3
This diff] is presumably what you are talking about. In what way was this content legitimate? Being in the right language is not enough if that content says nothing about Wikipedia.
Similarly, removing everything useful and replacing it with a few odd words you picked up in a language is not helpful (kj: example)

If the article is deleted and the mainpage is reverted NOW, the only possible explanation would be that people don't like Venda, and for this reason I don't think it will happen.

Don't like Venda or don't like potential copyright problems? Do you have permission from the author of te:Tshumelo ya Nyambo dza Lushaka to release it under the GFDL?
After your behaviour in trying to remove alleged copyright violations from toki pona, edits such as this on tn: appear quite surprising. Do you have permission to use this text? Or are you happy to contribute copyright violations as long as they are "in the target language"?
Angela. 01:43, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] History of the Finno-Ugric languages

A debate about the validity of Finno-Ugric seems to be going on on Talk:Finno-Ugric language. Your comments would be welcome. - Mustafaa 20:45, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Outdated

i have reply to you here. --Yacht (talk) 05:59, Nov 18, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Montenegrin

Just a personal notice regarding yours comment on Talk:Montenegrin language: in Serbian language Nikola is male name. As in Nikola Tesla ;) Nikola 08:34, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Nauruan interwiki link

As a reply to your mailing list message:

I can ensure you, there's no word called "Nauru" in the "modern" nauruan language. They still write "Naoero". The word "Nauru" is just a transcription for european and american people to pronounciate this word correctly. There are almost no differences between the Nauruan reported in Delaporte's and the Nauruan of today. I also can ensure you that the accents ^ and ` used in Delaporte's are only used there and nowhere else. In other nauruan literature (even in other works by Delaporte) there is just one accent sign: the tilde (~). There exists an "a" and an "ã", an "o" and an "õ", an "u" and an "ũ". So, "Ekakairù" is not correct, the only correct form is "Ekakairũ". And because of there's no translation for the adjective "nauruan", they just add "Naoero". Example: "Nauruan, nauruan man" means "amen Naoero". So, "Nauruan" or "nauruan language" means "Ekakairũ Naoero". I already contacted Tim Starling to change it, and he'll do so soon. Don't worry about this matter. The orthographical accents in Delaporte's are false, but anything else (translations) is OK and very important to create articles in the Nauruan Wikipedia. I'll do so because I recently got a nauruan grammar book.

Thank you for your understanding and best wishes -- CdaMVvWgS 14:07, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

PS Delaporte wrote the grammar with the assistance of many native speakers. I also have had contact with native nauruan speakers, and the way they wrote is almost the same as the words in the Delaporte's. -- CdaMVvWgS 14:14, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Cognation percentages for Arabic varieties

As a matter of fact, I did actually try and work some out myself a few years back for the Swadesh list; but that would count as original research if ever there was such a thing (I never published), and was in any case somewhat incomplete. I'll see if I can find something citable... It's hard to judge mutual comprehensibility, because the recent spread of literary Arabic media seriously biases the mutual comprehension figures, allowing most speakers to raise their dialect to a semi-classicized form which, while remaining unmistakeably characteristic of a particular country, is easier to understand than the "pure" dialect would be. - Mustafaa 16:07, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what happened to the figures - it was a while ago - but I'll see if I can dig them back up. For the references, see the sections at the end of Nubi language, Cypriot Maronite Arabic; for Bukhara Arabic, I came across http://www3.aa.tufs.ac.jp/~P_aflang/TEXTS/june98/buxara.html some time ago, in Japanese. For Juba Arabic, try Watson, Richard L. and Louis Biajo Ola. 1985. Juba Arabic for beginners. - Mustafaa 10:20, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

By way of a taster, you could look at http://www.geocities.com/lameens/storage/swadesh.txt , though it's obviously a pretty rough draft. - Mustafaa 10:26, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I put all the actual Swadesh lists I used on http://www.rosettaproject.org/, so you can compare them there... - Mustafaa 12:39, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hey, why didn't you mention the whole email debate? I only just found it. I speak Algerian Arabic myself, and I do not support am dubious about the creation of a Wikipedia for it, because, though it's a separate language in all but name from classical Arabic, it's manifestly not a separate language from Tunisian or Moroccan Arabic, although a small number of conspicuous differences make for different "standards" if you like - for instance, Moroccan Arabic, like some minor dialects of Algeria (eg Jijel), has verbal prefixes indicating aspect, and Tunisian Arabic reverses the masculine and feminine second person forms, leading to innumerable jokes. For more on Algerian Arabic, see http://www.geocities.com/lameens/darja/ . If one were created, however, - whether Maghreb Arabic or Algerian Arabic - the next step would naturally be some knock-down debates over script: I would support Arabic script, while the introducer of this proposal would support Latin. - Mustafaa 13:58, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

"when Algeria was under French control, there was some degree of literacy in Algerian Arabic in the Roman alphabet?" Not exactly. Algerian Arabic written works exist from both before and during the occupation - I have scans of a French government textbook in it used for elementary schools - but in Arabic script; Latin script was used only to teach French speakers. Today, lyrics, folk poetry, and the like are not infrequently written down, typically in Arabic script; however, the punch lines in comics in French-language Algerian newspapers, not to mention Internet chat and texting, generally use Latin. The language was briefly offered for the bac in France in the nineties (as "arabe maghrébin"), but I think it got discontinued. - Mustafaa 14:10, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Apache source

Hi.

I was wondering how you got the Apache names of the Arizona cities. Did you consult a person or a book? If book, could you lemme know the source? Thank you very much.

peace -

- Ish ishwar 22:44, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Tokipona

Hi Node! No, the Tokipona Wikipedia no longer exists officially as a Wikipedia. It still exists, to be sure, but no longer as a Wikipedia. Sorry. Jimbo Wales decided it had to go, for whatever reason, and it's not up to you or me to try to overturn his decision. Accordingly, I am "revandalizing" the Wikipedialang template. David Cannon 09:57, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Tajik Wikipedia

I was recently trying to make the Tajik Wikipedia a little more welcoming, and it occurred to me that there's a fundamental problem with it: all the system messages are in English. Any literate Tajik will speak Russian, and many will be able to read Farsi; how many can read English? I'd like to change the system messages into Russian, at least as a stopgap measure, but I have no idea how to go about doing this. Any ideas? Btw, my Arabic answer is above. - Mustafaa 14:42, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Maghrebi Arabic Wikipedia

The dialect mixing could pose some potential problems, but not much more, I should think, than is caused by American vs British spelling here. Orthography choices don't have to be too difficult; as it happens, I've spent rather a lot of time thinking through possible orthographies for the language, and Arabic script with a couple of extra letters (as few as 1, in Algerian practice, though a couple more are needed to render all phonemic distinctions) should do just fine. If someone insists they want Latin script, well, the Kashmiri and Kurdish wikipedia seem to be OK. I'd support it - and more to the point, I'd write articles for it, if only for the heck of it to see what happened. I'd call it the Darija (دارجة) Wikipedia, though; in Arabic, "Maghrebi Arabic" is ambiguous between Moroccan and Maghrebi. - Mustafaa 23:00, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Somali Wikipedia

You aren't the anon who claims to speak Somali at so and shares an IP address with you, are you? Do you happen to know who he might be? - Mustafaa 16:41, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Nauruan Wikipedia Logo

Hi, it seems that you can create logos. Because the request pages seem no to be viewed much, I'll post my request for the nauruan wikipedia here: NA Wikipedia needs a logo. The text should be: "Wikipedia - Encyclopedia emenengame". Thank you very much for your assistance and best wishes -- CdaMVvWgS 14:53, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Armenia

Hi. I am looking for someone who can translate Armenian into English. I noticed you are on the Armenian Wiki so decided to contact you. There are three articles on the Prime Minister of Armenia for the first republic that do not have articles. I have recently written one of them. The only source of information on the remaning three is in Armenian. If you would be interested in translating them or you know someone who might be please contact me --Hierarchypedia 23:20, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I check here more often.

[edit] Runa Simitan Wikipidiya (Quechuan Wikipedia)

Yaw, wikimasiniy (Hi, wikipartner). I suppose you're same Node ue from Quechuan and Spanish Wikipedia. I'm Huhsunqu. Well, I read the messege, but I don't know exactly what to do for begin an administrator. By the way, I read you can make logoes for wiki. If you could, I'll apreciate you yo create quechuan one, it'll say "Wikipidiya, qispi insiklupidiya". --Huhsunqu 03:27, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC) (I'm in Spanish wiki, too)

PD:I've put a link to your English wiki user page in Runa Simita wikipidiya]]

Hi, again. just for questioning about quechua logo. I went to commons and meta, but nobody say nothing about and that's turning me mad. Ther've been maby communication problems here. Don't forget writing me. I'm in English now, too. --Huhsunqu 19:57, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for explanation. It's so good to know it's walking. Anyway, could you upload it as a simple file? Maby some one in Spanish wiki cold upload it. See you. --Huhsunqu 20:21, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC) PD:Do you know when wikipidiya have started?
Sorry, Node, I thought I didn't write well :P. I tried to say if you could upload this image in the English or Spanish wikipedia as a common image. Or seding it to my mail:ssakyeok@yahoo.com. Please, it's taking, as you said, most time that it has.--Huhsunqu 04:41, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Punjabi Logo

Hi,

The logo uploaded to the Punjabi (pa) Wikipedia is an incorrect transliteration. I've created a new logo for this Wikipedia and was wondering if you could upload it?

Image:Sukh-WikiLogo.pa.png

Thanks Sukh 03:00, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Hi Sukh, the logo I created was using a translation told to me by a pa.wikipedian requesting a logo.


Hi, the translation for 'A Free Encyclopedia' is correct for the second line. However the transliteration is incorrect for the name Wikipedia. Phonetically, Wikipedia is 'Wikipiidiaa' as used in other Indic languages. However, the current transliteration is actually Wiikiipiidiiaa which is very wrong. Although the new transliteration is similar, you will notice that the big sticks with hooks (representing 'i' and 'ii') have been changed to represent the proper pronounciation of the vowel.
I would appreciate it if you could change it for me. Thank you. Sukh 14:08, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Is there any chance of getting this done? I've created the logo so it should only take a few minutes. If you are unable to change it for whatever reason, please inform me of the correct procedure so that I can get it changed some other way. Thanks. Sukh 16:25, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Finally managed to get sysop and have this done. Thanks anyway! Sukh 01:53, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Troubles

Hey, buddy; somehow I can not log in in quechuan wiki. What's going on? --Huhsunqu 04:04, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for worrying, byt don't worry more, I've solutionated it. Abaut the logo, it's so cool! I lik that modified Q. By the way, I've put the request for switching it in Meta-W. But, if you tech me, I can do it. Thanks much. --Huhsunqu 01:52, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC) Ah, I've been talking to the others administrators of Amerincan Langages' Wikis for cooperate between us. Inuktitut has already said yes.

[edit] Armenian Wiki

First of all, I'm very pleased to know that someone from English community is interested in Armenian Wiki, so thank you very much. I will follow the rules about signing, thanks for warning about it.
Second, It would be fantastic to have armenian interface, I can say I'm dreaming about it:) so would you help me if you're admin (I cant recognize them, because i'm very new to know much) or if you're not then can you advise me how to contact an admin for such objective?
Third of all, It would be very kind of you to make our logo. The text is like this

Wikipedia - Վիքիփեդիա, or all capitalized
WIKIPEDIA- ՎԻՔԻՓԵԴԻԱ, choose as needed
"Freedom" is - Ազատություն, so "free" would be like - Ազատ,
Encyclopedia - Հանրագիտարան
Final text would be like this

ՎԻՔԻՓԵԴԻԱ

Ազատ Հանրագիտարան

And if you'll need something to translate, or info, or anything I can provide, please let me know.
Thank you.Toxic01:39, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Armenian Logo

Wow, thanx very, very much, it's very cute, but it is only in images page, may it be a way to put in on air?, I mean to replace, original version, so it will be on main page?


[edit] Tamajaq, the Tuareg language page

Hello, wikipedian Node,

I am Ameno your wikibrother, I want to create a wikipage in Tamajaq, the Tuareg language, in Tifinagh, the Tuareg alphabet.

Please help.

Tanimmert. Ameno

Thanks, wikipedian Node,

Yes, I speak all Tuareg dialects, Southern/Nothern of: Azawagh, Ayr mountains, Ahaggar, Ajjer, and can also help in Tamazight (Berber).

But, is it possible to use the Tifinagh fonts?

Har tufat (a demain). Ameno


Oyik Node, (hello). Isalan? (What news?).

Aregh ad essenagh kud neddobat ad nafer es logo wan Tamajaq wiki, is tifinagh. I would like to know if we can begin by making a logo for Tamajaq wiki, in Tifinagh.

Har tufat. Until tomorrow.

Ameno

[edit] Wiksimitaqi (Wikctionary)

Hi, Node. Allillanchu? I'm Huhsunqu. You'll see. I've post a request for the logo of quechuan Wiktionary (Wiksimitaqi) but, as you're maby wondering, nobody gave me any answer. I've been questioning if you can also make wiktionary logoes. Would you help us? Ah! by the way, qu: has got a new Main Page design, as soon as possible it'll have an a Help section to English speakers. Thanks. --Huhsunqu 00:14, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC) PD: If you say yes, logo must say: "Wiksimitaqi - [wik.si.miˈtɒ.qe] s., Wikimedia-pa qispi Runa Simipin simitaqi."

[edit] "Xinjiang" in Uyghur

Hi Node, do you know what's the correct way of writing "Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region" in Uyghur? -- ran (talk) 21:45, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks node... what's wrong with the name given at Xinjiang, though? I thought Uyghur distinguished between "ya'" with two dots and without - the first one for the consonant, the second one for the vowel?

I don't think we have any native Yi names... or any native names so far, for that matter, except for a few exceptions (Guangxi). We don't even have Tibetan names for anything beyond Tibet Autonomous Region... -- ran (talk) 12:48, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

It would be great if you had any of these names.... I know that I don't. :P .. What do you have in mind, actually? Emailing the local governments? (Will they even reply? For some reason I doubt it.... they're probably all too busy "maintaining advanced ideological thinking" or something.) Or looking for it in a government publication or almanac? Or perhaps a dictionary or some other type of reference in a library... -- ran (talk) 07:05, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

Whoa, now I'm impressed. Where did you find the names? -- ran (talk) 22:54, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Uyghur spellings

You should have looked at some source before you edited Uyghur names, for example the section on the alphabet in the article on the Uyghur language (Uyghur_language#Writing_system). Some of your recent "corrections" are wrong, for example "ئۈرۈمقی (Ürümk̢i)" instead of the correct ئۈرۈمچى (Ürümqi). Babelfisch 00:56, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] India

Hey you seem to be multilingual. I am currently trying to add as many interwiki links to the India page. Would you be kind enough to make a new page for India in all the languages you know. Thanks for your efforts,  =Nichalp (Talk)= 11:09, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

Could you let me know which ones are incorrect? Most of the translations of the page are rendered as India. I have also taken the courtsey of asking key editors of that language wikipedias to add the page. I admit some of them may be incorrect, but after a week after I revisit the site, I find that either the page is redirected or the contents added. I only had a problem for Vietnamese and Belorussion. The former now has a page and for the latter I've put up a request. In my recent edits, I have realised that it may be construed as vandalism, so have have only put up images. Thanks,  =Nichalp (Talk)= 05:42, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
Hi. I noticed that you removed the sw, tpi & ps. For tpi see: (http://tpi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandi). From Afghanistan: ps: & ar: have the same unicode rendering. I've derived the sw: version from here: (http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiingereza). -- I'll contact someone on those wikipedias for a translation. Sorry for the inconvenience caused.  =Nichalp (Talk)= 06:25, May 29, 2005 (UTC)

A clarification: km:India was added by a native speaker of Khmer, User:Squash; he might add to that later (you may check the history there). While I am guilty of adding to many wikipedias, please keep in mind that in some there is no rendering of India in the local native American languages, and I believed that the name was true. I have stopped editing in other wikipedias, if there is no obvious India page. (But if there is an India version in a red link I will add the images and try a rudimentary translation like I did in tpi and jv). PS. I have been largely sucessful in having the pages translated as you may have seen. Anyways, I've finished most of my translations & I've put up requests for yiddish, mongolian and a few others.  =Nichalp (Talk)= 20:33, May 29, 2005 (UTC)

Might I also suggest that instead of putting the above mentioned pages up for deleting, the same can be stubbed into the actual article?  =Nichalp (Talk)= 20:35, May 29, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

As per the policy on the english wikipedia and a few other wikipedias, any non-english text is put up for translation. If there are different ways that the name can be rendered, the present page is redirected to its local name. As I glean in meta, all country articles are needed to be translated. Therefore I don't think you should put up all the India pages I've created for deletion when it needs to be translated to the local languages. Though, I've put written it in english, I have also been kind enough to include national images and interwiki links to all the wikipedias in the hope that a non-English wikipedian will get at the least a visual clue as to what the article is about.

Here's the text that I think should be translated: The Republic of India is located in South Asia and shares its borders with Pakistan, the People's Republic of China, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Nepal and Bhutan. Sri Lanka, the Maldives, and Indonesia are the adjacent island nations. India is the second most populous country in the world with a population of over one billion, and is the seventh largest country by geographical area. Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, Sikhism, Buddhism and Jainism are the main religions in India.

Thanks for the reply,  =Nichalp (Talk)= 06:31, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the Yiddish translation.  =Nichalp (Talk)= 10:14, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)