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[edit] H.P. Lovecraft influences

For an American band, isn't the convention to use American spelling?

And incidentally, can anyone tell me which Nile songs were inspired by H. P. Lovecraft? leigh 06:12, Dec 8, 2003 (UTC)

The last four songs on "In Their Darkened Shrines" are inspired by H.P. Lovecraft. I don't know about any others, though.

"Sarcophagus" off that same album is also influenced by Lovecraft, as well as "Von unaussprechlichen Kulten", which even gets its name from a book in Lovecraft's stories.

Isn't being Greek being Caucasian as well? Unless you mean all the others are from the Caucasus...

[edit] Genre

[edit] Black metal?

I removed this today: "One strange fact is that if NIle's lyrics were satanic, the band would probobly be catorized as black metal." Don't insert your own opinions into articles unless they are backed up by some an objective source. This comes completely out of thin air.

[edit] Oriental metal?

Why are Nile on the list of oriental metal bands? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beadrx (talkcontribs)

I think that it may be because they use a lot of Egyptian-styled sounds in their music. ≈ The Haunted Angel 21:05, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

So should we add oriental metal to the genre list in the infobox?Zelda 21:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

It was removed a while ago... the sounds they use aren't frequent, and are just a theme used every now and then. I think it's best to leave out. ≈ The Haunted Angel 21:28, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Agreed, just have tech and brutal death metal as genres. Thedividingline 06:28, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, now oriental metal is back on the genre list. I think we should remove it... anyone have any objections? If not, I will remove it later today. Dan 12:55, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Done. Dan 03:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

As much as I like the picture inserted by user Cyrock, I would think some justification for swapping pics is in order. Besides, the picture Cyrock uploaded comes with no description or copyright status whatsoever. Please argue this topic in here. --Steerpike 21:10, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

the old picture had former band members on it, and does not reflect current Nile. The new picture reflects the current lineup, and is not copyrighted, as it was posted on the Nile forums by a fellow FAN who took the picture during their past European tour.

ok --Steerpike 00:54, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lyrical Themes and Race

There are many Nile songs with Lovecraftian influence. On Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren-Ka, it's "Beneath Eternal Oceans of Sand" which has lyrics paraphrased from Lovecraft's "The Outsider". In fact, the phrase "amongst the Catacombs of Nephren-Ka" originates from that story and Nephren-Ka is a recurring character in the Lovecraft mythos.

On Black Seeds of Vengeance, the instrumental "The Nameless City of the Accursed" is a reference to Lovecraft's "The Nameless City".

On In Their Darknened Shrines, the four-part title track saga is somewhat inspired by Lovecraft and the lyrics to part IV "Ruins" are paraphrased from "The Nameless City".

On Annihilation of the Wicked, "Von Unaussprechlichen Kulten" is the Lovecraftian song. It's a grammatically correct rendition of the fictional lovecraft grimoire Unaussprechlichen Kulten and the lyrics are a pastiche of common themes and phrases used in H. P. Lovecraft tales.

Also, there are other non-Egyptian lyrical themes in their songs. On Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren-Ka, "Barra Edinazzu" is a spell in Sumerian, the instrumental "Kudurru Maglu" is an Arabic word (if I'm not mistaken), "Die Rache Krieg Leid der Assyriche" is supposedly an actual war song sung by the Assyrians, "Howling of the Jinn" is a reference to the jinn of Persian and Arabian lore, and "Pestilence and Iniquity" is about the Mesopotamian demon Pazuzu.

On Black Seeds of Vengeance, "Defiling the Gates of Ishtar" refers to an obscure episode in the Gilgamesh saga of Mesopotamia, and "To Dream of Ur" refers to the ancient Mesopotamian city, Ur.

Then, onto the race issue. I believe it's noteworthy to mention that the drummer is from Greece because that means he is the only member that has some connection to the Middle Eastern influences. All the other members are American without any Mediterranean heritage. 70.20.106.107 16:15, 16 January 2006 (UTC)Eoin

[edit] No longer a Relapse artist

Currently, Nile is Relapse alumni meaning they have either left the label, or not re-signed to a current deal. I added a small blurb about this and will be more than happy to edit back if and when Nile breaks the silence about their recording contract. fyrre

It's official, Nile is on Nuclear Blast. I added the link and noted Relapse as "former record label"

[edit] Tuning

They are one of the few bands who use the dropped A tuning.

This needs to be referenced, since I doubt that every Nile song uses the same tuning, and so I do not see the importance of this statement. Gronkmeister 16:17, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

well i think a majority of there songs do use it so it works (24.79.145.2 17:46, 28 July 2007 (UTC))

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