Talk:Nick Hornby
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I'm just ranting here. I can't bear to NPOV this "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" puff piece. Help! Caltrop 03:47, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)
Agreed. Added a request for cleanup... Gabriel Roth 02:38, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Anyone up for a list-style bibliography at the end? Zephyrprince 02:47, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I've removed the cleanup notice. I don't know if some work has been done since it was added but I can see nothing in the article to justify it now. --Cherry blossom tree 22:08, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm the one who added the cleanup notice. I agree that it's no longer warranted -- the article's a lot better. Thanks to everyone who improved it. Gabriel Roth 16:01, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
"Hornby belonged to the English upper-class"........ this seems to be a bit wrong to me. In Britain, as opposed to America, "upper-class" should properly speaking mean the old landed aristocracy or gentry. Even the richest businessman is by definition bourgeois - Marx's definition of the middle-class.
Okay, I accept that the American use of the terminology has, sadly, infected the English language, and many will just use the term "upper-class" to mean the richest, or the rulers of society. Even then though, was Hornby's dad really one of the richest and/or most influential businessmen in the UK? There is no evidence for this. That Hornby went to grammar school rather than public/private school seems to back this up. Anyway, to summarise, I believe this defintion of "upper-class" is a peculiarly American piece if milabling, and suggest changing to either "middle-class" or "upper-middle class."
I have to smile. A review I once read of "Fever Pitch" said that it was about "growing up poor in north London and supporting the working class Arsenal Football Club". Hornby is the son of a kinght, grew up in middle class Maidenhead, went to the local grammar school and then Cambridge University. The Rough Guide to European soccer describes Arsenal fans as "well-heeled and well-behaved". Millbanks 08:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Okay, no objections? I'm changing it to middle-class. Cite if you disagree.
[edit] Once more unto the breach
I heard hornby stole all his best ideas from long-time arsenal hot-dog seller "Fat Harry" Haritakis. And while hornby bagged the millions, Fat Harry has to soldier on with his famous frankfurter stand (although I believe he's now doing quite well with his burgers as well). Turn right out of the Arsenal station - get em while they're hot, they're lovely! [1] LutherFlint 23:45, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
