Talk:NFL on television

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[edit] TV logos

I believe the logos corresponding to the subjects, should be added because the MLB TV Contracts page has made use of of this.--Roadrunner3000 23:20, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Please summarise

Please summarise the present situation, ie the annual value of the contracts now in force, possibly in a little table. I guess all the information is here, but for a non-American with little background knowledge it is pretty hard to interpret. Calsicol 16:39, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

No. You can begin a history of the NFL on television, and do a contract-by-contract and historical backstory on this subject and include the information after the 2006 season begins. Currently, we are doing what in essence is a preview of events for the next NFL season. NoseNuggets 7:23 US EST Jan 6 2006.

  • The problem is that most of the content you are writing there is already here ... rather redundant. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 00:55, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Although you first placed that content there on 2006 NFL season today [1], this information has already been on this NFL on television article in one form or another for several months [2]. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 01:17, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
      • How about this: I am willing to only list on 2006 NFL season what the TV coverage will be during that year, but details on the overall TV contracts will be, including the last paragraph on who will televise the Pro Bowl in 2007 on, should be placed on this NFL on television article. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 06:03, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

It is good where it is - sly fox —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.155.205.89 (talk • contribs) .

I'd say because there are major changes in 2006, so there has to be something in the 2006 article to let folks know. This could probably be reduced here, with link to the TV article, but there has to be some duplication of content to give info where folks will look for it. -Jcbarr 05:23, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I think there should be a compromise, but most of details of the contracts itself, including who will televise what in 2007 and beyond should be placed on the TV article. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 17:28, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

No merge. This article will still be needed once the 2006 NFL season starts, so why not keep it here where more people are likly to type in 2006 NFL Season then 2006 NFL Season and Televison? -SAS- 15 January 2006 16:38 Eastern —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.59.114.196 (talk • contribs) .

  • Since you wrote this as an unlogged anonymous user, you may be unfamilar with the merge tag, in that it says "It has been suggested that this article or section be merged" (emphasis added). In order to save disk space, we use the same tag whenever we want to merge an article or just a section of an article. Because, in this case, the tag was placed at the start of an article's section instead of the top of the article, it indicates that it only has been proposed to merge the "television" section, not the entire 2006 NFL season article itself. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 01:23, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Since there is no further objections, I will try to merge the content based on Jcbarr's suggestion. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 03:46, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Giants vs Jets Scheduling

The statement "The Giants and Jets are never scheduled against each other, primarily because they share a stadium and usually alternate home games." is inaccurate [Sunday regional coverage]. Perhaps it was making another point, but worded incorrectly. Under NFL scheduling rules, teams play every team in the other conference once every 4 years. They last played in [2003] and are scheduled again for [2007]

No, the person meant that their games are never scheduled against each other. The Giants and Jets never play at the same time or on the same channel on the same day (unless they're playing each other). They certainly do play each other every four years. The Giants will, in fact, "host" the Jets in 2007. The game will be on CBS, NBC, ESPN, or the NFL Network. 76.21.45.13 01:41, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is there a conspiracy between Fox and DirectTV?

Recently, I heard that News Corporation, the owner of the Fox network, has aquired DirecTV. Around this time, I became a lot less satisfied of the selection of Sunday afternoon games shown by my local Fox station, KTTV of Los Angeles. Los Angeles is not an NFL market area, so KTTV/Fox has a lot of leeway in selecting what games to show. The games I find important are usually played between teams of the NFC West (49'ers, Rams & Seahawks).

Since the Fox/DirecTV "merger", it seams KTTV/Fox selects games to show from the other 3 NFC divisions, ignoring the NFC West. I would think the LA area would be more interested in NFC West games, with the upstate 49'ers, a former LA team in the Rams and the defending conference champion Seahawks. For someone in LA, the only way to get these games on TV is with....you guessed it....DirecTv's NFL Sunday Ticket.

In other words, is KTTV/Fox selecting games outside of my regional area to broadcast so I would be more inclined to purchase Sunday Ticket at $200+ a season on top of subscribing to DirecTV? Let me hear about your area. If you live on the east coast, is your local Fox station showing nothing but games between west coat teams? If you live near Canada, does Fox show nothing but the NFC South?

Do I see a pattern here?


Anything's possible, but I doubt it. 76.21.45.13 01:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NFL Jingles

  • Continuing on from NFL's talk page: Videos of the NFL Jingle tags (NBC, CBS & Fox at the moment) being used are *not* being uploaded. They have been taken from TV broadcasts. WizardDuck 00:07, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
    • One concern. It might want to be brought up in policy discussions. Videos and jingles may not be covered under fair use policies. Not sure how to handle these. May be helpful to the article, but be careful on copyright violations. I am iffy on how this works... --Jayron32 04:43, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
      • I removed them. It's been over a year since the topic was brought up, though. WizardDuck (talk) 04:39, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ESPN Sunday night games televised on Fox owned stations in teams' markets?

Can a source be cited for this? I remember 49ers' Sunday night games on TNT and ESPN being shown on KTVU Fox 2 back in the day, but KTVU is not actually owned by Fox. It's just a Fox affiliate. 76.21.45.13 01:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

It's strictly done on a bidding process. In Green Bay, for example, WBAY (ABC affil.) carries ESPN Monday Night games involving the Packers, but WFRV (CBS affil.) got the NFL Network game against the Cowboys.DrBear 17:15, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] International Bordcast?

list of international bordcaster is missing.The Tramp 15:19, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First game

According to: Fullerton, John. Screen Culture: History and Textuality, London: Indiana University Press, 2004 ISBN 0861966457 (pg. 235), in 1946, NBC televised the New York Giants game versus the Green Bay Packers on September 20 and it was the first televised game in league history. Quadzilla99 14:31, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Los Angeles

What's the NFL Blackout Policy regarding Los Angeles? Are they part of the San Diego Chargers market? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.246.84.18 (talk) 06:02, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

No. Los Angeles is about 200 miles from San Diego. 69.181.166.15 06:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanksgiving Day Football - Even-Odd Rotation

Yes, the even-odd rotations (i.e, Dallas hosts NFC in even years and AFC in odd years, and Detroit hosts AFC in even years and NFC in odd years) did technically reverse every decade or so. However, the reversal was not solely because of a 10-year (decade) passage. Rather, it has to do with the poor performance of one of the host teams in the prior year. This scenario happened twice.

In 1979, the Detroit Lions finished with a 2-14 record, "bad" enough for 5th place in what was then the NFC Central. In 1980, the NFC Central was scheduled to host teams from the AFC West. However, due to NFL scheduling at the time, the 5th place team in a division from the prior year played a "special" schedule consisting of:

1) a home game and an away game against each of the other 4 teams in its own 5-team division 2) A game (home or away) against each member of the "4-team" division within their own conference (i.e., the NFC West) 3) a home game and an away game against the other 5th place team in the same conference 4) a home game against one 5th place team in the other conference, and 5) an away game against the other 5th place team in the other conference

With the above scheduling formula in mind, the NFL apparently decided that Kansas City and Baltimore as Thanksgiving Day visitors to Detroit would lead to "unwatchable" matchups. That is, nobody would, in their right mind, interrupt their Thanksgiving meal to watch a game between two losing teams. Therefore, 1980 marked the second year in a row that Detroit would host an NFC team and Dallas would host an AFC team, and that's why the even-odd rotation was apparently reversed after a decade.

In 1990, a similar situation occurred with the Dallas Cowboys. In 1989, Dallas finished 1-15, "bad" enough for 5th place in the NFC East. In 1990, the NFC East was scheduled to play teams from the AFC East. Due to NFL scheduling formula, however, the NFL apparently decided that San Diego and New York Jets as visitors to Dallas would produce "unwatchable" matchups and that people would be unwilling to interrupt their Thanksgiving meal to watch such a game. Therefore, Thanksgiving 1990 would be the second straight year for AFC @ Detroit and NFC @ Dallas. Again, the even-odd rotation was apparently reversed after a decade.

With the current NFL alignment (i.e. 4 teams in each of 4 divisions in each of 2 conferences), however, the above scenarios would be extremely unlikely, if not impossible, in the future. Therefore, the even-odd rotation reversals occurred not merely because of decade-long passages but because of prior year performances by the host teams (Detroit and Dallas).

209.62.209.152 (talk) 21:31, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pre-2002 schedules

Since someone mentioned the pre-2002 schedule formula for the 5th place teams: what was the pre-2002 schedule formula for the other teams? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.64.197 (talk) 04:15, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Overtime

what about the rule where is a 1 o'clock game goes into overtime on a network, and another game starts at 4:15 on the same network, the viewer is not allowed to watch the end of the first game, they cut off the broadcast to show you the start of the second game. one of the dumbest rules in my opinion. broadcasts of baseball, basketball, college football, and college basketball do not do this, why does the NFL have to? can someone do some research into this, and maybe add it into the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.178.184.14 (talk) 15:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Christmas 2008 and Thursday night games

In 2006 and 2007, the 5 Thursday night games were Weeks 12-16, starting on Thanksgiving (Nov. 23, 2006 and Nov. 22, 2007), and ending with the penultimate week of the season (Dec. 21, 2006 and Dec. 20, 2007); there was no Thursday night game the last week of the season (Dec. 28, 2006 and Dec. 27, 2007). The 3 Saturday night games were Weeks 15-17, the last 3 weeks of the season (Dec. 16, 23, and 30, 2006; and Dec. 15, 22, and 29, 2007).

However, in 2008, Thanksgiving falls on Nov. 27, a week later (Week 13 rather than Week 12) than in 2006 and 2007. How will they handle the schedule? Will they start the Thursday night games the week before Thanksgiving (Nov. 20, 2008), and otherwise follow the same basic pattern as 2006 and 2007? Or, will they have a Thursday night game during the last week of the season (which would be Christmas, Dec. 25), even though there was no Thursday night game that week in 2006 and 2007 (and there has never been a Thursday night game on Christmas, although they do have Sunday night and Monday night games on Christmas)? Or will they instead do 4 Thursday night games (weeks 13-16) and 4 Saturday night games (weeks 14-17)? Or does nobody know? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.64.197 (talk) 01:02, 26 January 2008 (UTC)