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Contents 1 Other changes to the NY sports landscape? 2 Rename the article? 3 Serious lack of citation in "Public Opinion" section 4 ticket prices 5 Baseball-only stadium 6 New piks 7 "Curse"

[edit] Other changes to the NY sports landscape?

I don't think we need that long paragraph about the other stadiums being constructed in the NYC area. This is not all part of one coherent plan (such as the one that brought us both KeySpan Park and Richmond County Bank Ballpark). The only real mention in context to the article is Citi Field. We can follow other articles and have external links to the other future stadiums. Milchama 12:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rename the article?

I do not think we should change the article name yet until the new stadium opens. If no sponsor name is in place, then we'll worry about it. One model to look at is Busch Stadium, which was only changed to the new stadium after it opened.

This new stadium is technically "Yankee Stadium III", as the current stadium has been referred to as "Yankee Stadium II" or "The New Stadium" since the 1970s renovations. Milchama 17:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

The official New York Yankees web site lists the name of the new stadium as "The New Yankee Stadium". [1] When there is an official name that differs from the existing Yankee Stadium (such as Yankee Stadium at Chase Plaza), then we should change the name. user:mnw2000 20:05, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. The team and city stopped calling the refurbished original ballpark "New Yankee Stadium" or "Yankee Stadium II" a long time ago. It's just "Yankee Stadium." The team and league use "New Yankee Stadium" to refer to this one, and therefore so should we. It appears likely that the "New" will no longer be official once the stadium opens, as the exterior signage already in place reads simply "Yankee Stadium"[2]. At that point, we should probably rename this article and move the article about the old stadium to something like Yankee Stadium (1923-2008). Then again, as noted the club may well sell "Yankee Stadium at ______ Place" naming rights, and if they do that should become the new name. That seems to have cooled down, and now may well not happen. For now, keep it as it is. SixFourThree (talk) 16:11, 4 March 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree

I concur. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 23:51, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Here is an idea for this article: Once the new Stadium opens, create an entirely new article and rename this one "Construction of Yankee Stadium III" or something similar. -Wakamusha (talk) 19:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't like that idea, and I think it will just create confusion and the two separate articles ending up back together. --Michael Greiner 22:33, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

A good precedent for the naming would be Wembley Stadium (1923) and Wembley Stadium. I don't think a separate construction article is needed. Much of that is detail about either the politics or of the minutia about the construction. I'm sure you could write a lengthy article about the 1923 construction also, but a paragraph or two should suffice in both cases, once it's an accomplished fact. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 23:02, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Serious lack of citation in "Public Opinion" section

Lots of figures, opinions of public officials, et cetera are used without any citation. This needs to be addressed.

Agreed. The tense is also off, reflecting the time in which it was written. I'll take a crack at it later today. SixFourThree (talk) 17:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree

[edit] ticket prices

Tickets are $14 - $400. Just announced at this years season opener. So take it out of unknown elements —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.225.12.120 (talk) 17:08, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Baseball-only stadium

I'm removing the sentence Unlike the original, it will be a baseball-only stadium. It's misleading - the original Yankee Stadium was not intended to be a multi-sport facility (as 1960s and 1970s facilities such as Shea Stadium, Riverfront Stadium and Three Rivers Stadium, among others), although other sports were indeed played there throughout its history. SixFourThree (talk) 17:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree

Not true. Yankee Stadium was designed with football and track in mind also. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 18:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I will gladly stand corrected. SixFourThree (talk) 19:14, 31 March 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree

Were there any sports besides baseball at the 1976 version? I'm thinking they had soccer matches there occasionally. The 1923 version was definitely multi-purpose. That's why they laid out the bleachers the way they did, with sides that were 90 degrees or parallel to the third-base stands. The warning track was originally a running track. The Polo Grounds was multi-purpose also, from Day One. But I wonder about 1976-date? Arguably it was designed primarily with baseball in mind, even if other sports were occasionally played there. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 19:18, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Anyway, I put the wording back but I changed it to try to reduce the seemingly-condescending tone of the original comment. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 19:19, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Don't know - the Cosmos were already in Giants Stadium when "New Yankee Stadium" (as it was then known) opened. So were, obviously, the Giants. Maybe a college team might have played there? SixFourThree (talk) 19:45, 31 March 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree

The Yankee Stadium article says the New York Cosmos palyed there in 1976, the first year the remodeled Stadium opened. Maybe that's what I was thinking of, although I think there have been other games there since then. But that doesn't mean the 1976 Stadium was designed for it. The 1923 Stadium definitely was. Which is why I re-worded it the way I did. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 19:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Did some more digging, and found this photo[3] of the Cosmos in what was then called "New Yankee Stadium" - August, 1976. Doesn't give us any indication as to whether the Stadium was designed with soccer in mind, though. SixFourThree (talk) 20:10, 3 April 2008 (UTC)SixFourThree

[edit] New piks

PUT in new pics..!!!!!! construction 1s!! k?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ben10027 (talk • contribs) 15:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Curse"

Should the happenings with the construction worker and the Red sox jersey be mentioned? I'm leaving it out for now... Ehccheehcche (talk) 01:50, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

It's pointless now, since the Red Sox fans couldn't keep it a secret. And by the Yankees taking the high road, auctioning the shirt and donating proceeds to the Jimmy Fund, that would nullify any "curse". Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 02:05, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I think mentioning a curse is pointless, but the situation I think merits at least a quick mention. They went through a lot of work to make sure it was out of there.Tithonfury (talk) 02:52, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

It is a funny story. I'm not sure it belongs here, though. Maybe in the Yankees / Red Sox Rivalry page. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 02:59, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I think a brief mention here, along with a wikilink to the rivalry page would be sufficient. On a side note, I'm sending him money for his defense if he asks for it, and I'm an Astros fan!

They didn't play this very well. The guy should have waited until the stadium was completed and then said he did it but isn't saying where. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 18:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, something about "jerseygate" should be mentioned. It seems to be a fairly significant event in the construction history of the stadium, if only for trivial and information purposes. Plus it's funny! Tjrover (talk) 22:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)tjrover

Since the Yankees are auctioning it and donating the proceeds to the Jimmy Fund, this could reverse whatever curse the Red Sox fan was trying to put on the team. In short, it could turn back on the Red Sox. Just what they need - another 86-year wait. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 22:35, 14 April 2008 (UTC)